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Postby vagrent » Sun Sep 19, 2010 8:18 pm

Well...
I have a 2.1 td not sure if it direct injection, dont think so, on an P plate. 406 saloon gl, i think, that has an intermittent problem....

For some time now, it would randomly cut out for no reason, but start fine as soon as it stopped.
Sometimes it would run on for a bit also once turned off.
Took it to garage and they said stop solenoid on the pump.
Matey(mechanic) tried to get the stop solenoid off net but was unable to fit it as the pump is a sealed unit.
And has said it has to go to peugeot to be sorted out..and that was gonna cost 500quid..
Now as its not my car, its the father in laws car this is all 3rd hand info, so not sure if that's all in or extra labour.
Matey said "its a right off mate, feck it off and buy a new one"! :shock:
Easy for him to say, spent a lot on it already, cam-belt, clutch slave and master, brakes few other bits service ect...
And to buy a new motor, for about 500quid we, mainly me for the easy stuff will have to do all over again on the new car! :roll:
He also said that you cant use a second hand pump cause it will throw all the codes out.

The mechanic is a nice bloke and have no reason to doubt his work, but the fact he welded a sump with oil in it and I blew up on him! :shock:
To do a daft think like that makes me doubt his judgement.

I did initially post this in the welcome section :supafrisk:




Postby steve_earwig » Sun Sep 19, 2010 4:31 pm

vagrent wrote:I have a 2.1 td not sure if it direct injection, dont think so,

They all are, diesel doesn't atomise too easily.

Hmm, stop solenoid sounds likely I guess, although I think once they're dead they're dead.

And has said it has to go to peugeot to be sorted out..and that was gonna cost 500quid..

Sounds about right for supply and fit of new fuel pump. Gits.

He also said that you cant use a second hand pump cause it will throw all the codes out.

As far as I know, the only bit of the fuel pump that has anything to do with the immobiliser is the stop solenoid, so you'd need to do it anyway. I'm not even sure this is the case, I know on the 1.9 it just throws it a live.

You sure he's not thinking HDi?

I think we need someone who's had issues with the Lucas EPIdemiC but the only bods I can think of haven't been in for a while :(

You also have the alternative of swapping it out for a Bosch, have a read.
What does you guys reckon?
Is he talk guff? can I get it done for cheaper?



Steve gave me some good pointers, any other good sugestions? :mrgreen:
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Re: p reg 2.1td 406 saloon

Postby poddack » Sun Sep 19, 2010 8:53 pm

This is how you replace the stop solenoid http://s843.photobucket.com/home/poddack/index

I swapped mine to cure a running on problem, remove the key and the engine keeps going for 5 seconds, yellow warning light on.
The solenoid plunger should have had a rubber end on it like the new one, this was missing wether it dissolved or was never there in the first place I wouldn't know, this engine was purchased off ebay and I don't know it's history.
406 estate, 2.1TD, I fixed her, then part exchanged her for a Mercedes E300TD Avantgarde Estate.
Hmmmm, straight 6 goodness!
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Re: p reg 2.1td 406 saloon

Postby poddack » Sun Sep 19, 2010 8:55 pm

It's definately indirect injection and this is a job you can do yourself.

I will post the Lucas/Delphi part numbers for the plunger when I find them.
406 estate, 2.1TD, I fixed her, then part exchanged her for a Mercedes E300TD Avantgarde Estate.
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Re: p reg 2.1td 406 saloon

Postby omega » Sun Sep 19, 2010 9:00 pm

The mechanic is a nice bloke and have no reason to doubt his work, but the fact he welded a sump with oil in it and I blew up on him! :shock:
To do a daft think like that makes me doubt his judgement.

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Postby DiscoPol » Sun Sep 19, 2010 9:21 pm

*stands quietly to one side, with a feeling of pride in the guys on 406oc*


nice one guys keep the answers coming.

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Re: p reg 2.1td 406 saloon

Postby poddack » Sun Sep 19, 2010 9:39 pm

406 estate, 2.1TD, I fixed her, then part exchanged her for a Mercedes E300TD Avantgarde Estate.
Hmmmm, straight 6 goodness!
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Re: p reg 2.1td 406 saloon

Postby vagrent » Mon Sep 20, 2010 8:15 pm

Cheers guys,
That's a very informative photo gallery cheers poddack :mrgreen:

Gonna have a look this weekend see if I can do it.
Just spoke to the old man, he says he's spoken to the mechanic again and he is still trying to convince him it needs to goto peugeot for this work :frown:
Although I should not complain working all the time, but feck me I could do with the time off to fix this motor :x
Looking at them pic, I can do that :mrgreen:
Having said that it may not be as simple as that, need to have a proper look to assess the prob.
Gotta act fast as he still on about selling it to buy some sheddy old escort van :shock: :shock: :shock:
I have had several escorts and they were all shizer


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Lol what a doughnut eh?
Stupidest thing I have done under a car (escort) was whilst swearing at a drive shaft trying to remove it and failing, went under and pried it out with a small bar, and I gave way hurt my knuckle and got gear oil all over my chin, neck, in me top freaking every where!

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