406 exe turbo 98, no start , solenoid i think , where is it.

Gracchi · Post by **Gracchi** » Sun Jan 28, 2007 8:51 pm

Hi all, longtime no see, been a good winter for me baby,
but last week , shes had problems starting,now shes dead, battery seems fine, when i turn the key i just get a clicking noise coming from the engine, if i turn the key all way round , everything works, so dont think its the battery,
prob is from the key switch to the battery.
now ive meaning to buy the manuel for a long time but the local pugwoit dealer want 45 quid, specail manuel , from france they say.

cheers for any help.

i dont even know where the starter motor is , sorry .

jameslxdt · Post by **jameslxdt** » Sun Jan 28, 2007 9:11 pm

have you tried a new battery?

Gracchi · Post by **Gracchi** » Sun Jan 28, 2007 10:57 pm

no ,but i can still play the radio, lights and everything seem strong, no dimming, so i think it must be something else as when i tested the bat , it seemed ok.

mjb · Post by **mjb** » Mon Jan 29, 2007 12:10 am

Get a Haynes manual. Don't think there's anything in the Pug manual that you need to know that isn't covered by the Haynes as well, so it's definitely worth the money.

I'd try sticking a multimeter on the end of the lead(s?) to the starter motor and getting someone else to try turning the key (or using a 'max hold' feature if available). Could just be a dodgy relay...

Gracchi · Post by **Gracchi** » Tue Jan 30, 2007 7:37 pm

Got a haynes manuel today, usless, for the exec anyway, all models in the manuel say the ignition coil is on top of the cylander head,, i carnt seem to find it,

so was wondering if anyone knew where it was.
and apart from the local pug dealer, and has any one brought one laterly?.,

cheers lads.

rewind, i got a new starter motor, 50 quid,put it on, now the car is turning over, but the engine is not kicking in. it kicked in once, blowing alot of smoke, i guesss thats the spark plugs, ill get them tomo.

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jameslxdt · Post by **jameslxdt** » Tue Jan 30, 2007 7:44 pm

right, take one of the plugs out, plug it back in the ht lead, earth the centre electrode on part of the engine, turn the engine over, does it spark?

jameslxdt · Post by **jameslxdt** » Tue Jan 30, 2007 7:45 pm

VERY IMPORTANT NOTE
dont touch the plug when your trying to start

Gracchi · Post by **Gracchi** » Tue Jan 30, 2007 7:52 pm

have done all that, but will still not run, im starting to think it may be the immobilizer now stoping the engine turning,

any ideas?

o and thanks by the way.

jameslxdt · Post by **jameslxdt** » Tue Jan 30, 2007 8:22 pm

did you get a spark?
do you have a keypad?

Gracchi · Post by **Gracchi** » Tue Jan 30, 2007 8:37 pm

yes and no

jameslxdt · Post by **jameslxdt** » Tue Jan 30, 2007 8:40 pm

if you are getting a spark, then obviously the coils are working

as you dont have a keypad then you wont have an immobiliser problem, usually the double relay is at fault and the fuel pump doesnt run, can you hear it running when you turn the ignition on?

Gracchi · Post by **Gracchi** » Tue Jan 30, 2007 8:51 pm

the fuel pump seems to be working fine, can you tell me be abit more about the double relay please ,
excuse my ignorance.

jameslxdt · Post by **jameslxdt** » Tue Jan 30, 2007 8:58 pm

the double relay triggers the coils, injectors, ecu and fuel pump, the ecu is working as the coils are working, so you are obviously getting no fuel, lift up the back seat, and get some one to listen to make sure the pump is working whilst trying to start, also listen to the injectors while trying to start and make sure they are ticking loudly, if not they may not be opening which could be caused by the relay

Gracchi · Post by **Gracchi** » Wed Jan 31, 2007 8:35 pm

cheers man, all sorted now, was damp sparks,had to return them to the shop , got a new set and we are away.,

was just wondering about a service for me car,.diognostic and all that.

local stealer or a independent one?

and very many thanks for the help and info.

jameslxdt · Post by **jameslxdt** » Thu Feb 01, 2007 8:32 pm

you may as well service it yourself as you will save yourself a tidy sum