V6 Est Cambelt change price?

Malachy · Post by **Malachy** » Tue May 08, 2007 11:59 am

genuine pug means nothing though, pug do not fabricate the parts, valeo/continental/gates etc do
pug just stock them.
find out the manufacturer they stock and source a different supplier to not get butt raped

so the new tensioners where £150 each then........... ok id like to see the reciept for that

DH1972 · Post by **DH1972** » Tue May 08, 2007 12:06 pm

What is a tensioner anyroad? Is it like a pulley? He said 'it's got rollers, not like a normal engine' or summat.

Malachy · Post by **Malachy** » Tue May 08, 2007 12:14 pm

DH1972 wrote:What is a tensioner anyroad? Is it like a pulley? He said 'it's got rollers, not like a normal engine' or summat.

a tensioner is basically a idle roller that you can adjust to tension the belt.

they all have "rollers" lol no idea what this mechanic is on about

they are a wheel that rolls on the back of the belt you "swing" the wheel to tighten the belt thats it

usually you have 1 idler and 1 tensioner as seen in this picture

thats the 2l16v kit and costs £40+vat contitech brand (continental)
i cant see how 1 more tensioner + a waterpump and a longer belt will make it £700

mjb · Post by **mjb** » Wed May 09, 2007 8:22 am

I think my turbo's belt+tensioner+pump only came to around £50. That's dealer belt+tensioner and the pump from a factor

Shame I can't fit the f****** things because the f****** engine leave no f****** clearance

DH1972 · Post by **DH1972** » Wed May 09, 2007 8:46 am

Here is the itemised bill. Can experts check this as I intend to take this further - small claims court etc

Labour on site - £420
Timing belt - £72.13
Bracket plate - £114.66
Roller - £56.12
Roller - £55.64
Waterpump - £80.06
Waterpump gasket - £1.17
Fan/aux belt - £17.20
Tensioner - £98.56
Roller - £29.98
Self tap screws - £8.70
Anti-freeze - £23.80
Enviro parts disposal £3.50
Workshop consumables £3.50
Oil service - £20.00
Peugeot V6 oil filter - £9.85
15W-40 engine oil 4.75l - £33.25
Pressure test labour - £24.00

Total £1,072.12
Vat £187.62
Total £1,259.74

Description of work done
1. Supply and fit genuine cambelt, tensioners, guides and waterpump
2. Carry out an oil and filter service
3. Carry out a coolant system pressure test to evaluate coolant leak

Notes: 'We have had to install modified Peugeot supplied parts to this vehicle. This is due to Peugeot having superceeded (sic) the origional factory fitted parts. Customer advised prior to fitment.

After collection, I noticed water dripping from the front bumper. I later ascertained that this was screenwash as the front wiper washers were now not operational, meaning that they have either been snagged, damaged or left unconnected.

Malachy · Post by **Malachy** » Wed May 09, 2007 9:29 am

DH1972 wrote:Here is the itemised bill. Can experts check this as I intend to take this further - small claims court etc

Labour on site - £420
Timing belt - £72.13 what is it steel banded or something?
Bracket plate - £114.66 bit more info? £114 for a bracket what bracket exactly what was wrong with the original bracket that it needed replacing?seems a bit silly
Roller - £56.12 will have to check how many rollers are needed for the v6 on parts cd but im sure there is not 3 and at that price????? phone pug up and ask for the prices of belt + tensioners for v6
Roller - £55.64
Waterpump - £80.06 VERY dear water pump for the 2l is £30
Waterpump gasket - £1.17 gasket comes with the waterpump not an extra cost
Fan/aux belt - £17.20 again what is it made of carbon kevlar or something ? fanbelts are £10 max
Tensioner - £98.56
Roller - £29.98
Self tap screws - £8.70 what for? shpouldnt be any self tappers put on the car and id be worried if they were using them on my car + £8.70 of self tappers is like 200 of them
Anti-freeze - £23.80
Enviro parts disposal £3.50
Workshop consumables £3.50
Oil service - £20.00
Peugeot V6 oil filter - £9.85
15W-40 engine oil 4.75l - £33.25
Pressure test labour - £24.00

Total £1,072.12
Vat £187.62
Total £1,259.74

Description of work done
1. Supply and fit genuine cambelt, tensioners, guides and waterpump
2. Carry out an oil and filter service
3. Carry out a coolant system pressure test to evaluate coolant leak

Notes: 'We have had to install modified Peugeot supplied parts to this vehicle. This is due to Peugeot having superceeded (sic) the origional factory fitted parts. Customer advised prior to fitment.
Lies you can get the parts to fit your engine easily it is not a 1940's mga its a late 1990s french saloon

After collection, I noticed water dripping from the front bumper. I later ascertained that this was screenwash as the front wiper washers were now not operational, meaning that they have either been snagged, damaged or left unconnected.

Post by **DaiRees** » Wed May 09, 2007 9:38 am

were you going to say something?

Malachy · Post by **Malachy** » Wed May 09, 2007 9:53 am

DaiRees wrote: were you going to say something?

i did check italics

edited them to bold now

DH1972 · Post by **DH1972** » Wed May 09, 2007 10:43 am

Thanks Malachy this is useful advice. They claimed to have only used genuine Pug parts, so would my nearest dealer be the place to phone up and find out?

Malachy · Post by **Malachy** » Wed May 09, 2007 11:06 am

DH1972 wrote:Thanks Malachy this is useful advice. They claimed to have only used genuine Pug parts, so would my nearest dealer be the place to phone up and find out?

yes phone them up and ask for a cambelt kit and water pump for your car, they will ask reg etc and be able to inform you.

DH1972 · Post by **DH1972** » Wed May 09, 2007 11:36 am

Malachy wrote:
DH1972 wrote:Thanks Malachy this is useful advice. They claimed to have only used genuine Pug parts, so would my nearest dealer be the place to phone up and find out?
yes phone them up and ask for a cambelt kit and water pump for your car, they will ask reg etc and be able to inform you.

I just called them, McKinnon Motors in Croydon, and the parts manager there was very helpful. He said that all parts were supplied to the garage in question and yes, they did cost that amount. He also said that the labour at the dealership would have been £546 plus VAT. He said that all the tensioners would have needed replacing at that stage as it's a V6.

I still need to get the bloody windscreen washers sorted, damned if I'm doing that myself - it must be a snagged hose or something.

darrenwall · Post by **darrenwall** » Wed May 09, 2007 4:39 pm

DH1972 wrote: Pressure test labour - £24.00

3. Carry out a coolant system pressure test to evaluate coolant leak

fook me , im in the wrong job, if you can get away with charging £24 just to start a car up and sit on your arse untill it warms ups im gonna start my own pressure testing business

jameslxdt · Post by **jameslxdt** » Wed May 09, 2007 8:28 pm

you all missed the fact they put the wrong oil in, and waaaaaaay over charged for it

Captain Jack · Post by **Captain Jack** » Wed May 09, 2007 9:03 pm

jameslxdt wrote:you all missed the fact they put the wrong oil in, and waaaaaaay over charged for it

Indeed. A 4L Castrol bottle costs 16 quid from Halfrauds. Couldn't imagine a stealer charging more than this.

I agree with Malachy's comments. When I had my water pump replaced by my Peugeot independent dealer, they charged me 40-odd quid incl VAT. And they use Pug's parts only. Not sure how a water pump can cost over 80 quid!

jameslxdt · Post by **jameslxdt** » Wed May 09, 2007 9:16 pm

especially as pug use cheapo total oil