v6 engine problem

[fairlight08]

thank u am now at home having a nice pint of beer had a few problems with the car this week before it started today it scared the sh*t out of me am having problems inside the car for some reason it wont turn over on the key!!
so have got a remote start wired up to the starter motor how ever before she started i was turning her over and she kept firing but not starting then a massive back fire and a big arse flame out my air box she started run her up to temp then changed the oil so just got to sort the starting problem then i can take her out for the first run she sounds nice theres no better sound than a v6 singing lol

[teamster1975]

Good job mate!

[fairlight08]

hi guy's another problem has hit the fan lol does anyone know much about the clutch on the v6 engine?
i went to drive her for the frist time the other day and put my foot on the clutch and the pedal didnt come back up i know they are hydro on these engines so do i need to bleed it?

[mjb]

hi guy's another problem has hit the fan lol does anyone know much about the clutch on the v6 engine?
i went to drive her for the frist time the other day and put my foot on the clutch and the pedal didnt come back up i know they are hydro on these engines so do i need to bleed it?

Funny you should mention it...

If it's a sealed system (as on the D8) with a black reservoir on the bulkhead behind the cambelt area, you need a complete new system. Easy enough to transplant from another car - the cylinders just come out by pushing in (hard) and twisting anticlockwise (hard)

If it's a D9 with the clutch sharing the brake reservoir, the first thing is to check the slave cylinder on top of the gearbox housing (take the air filter box out). If there's any wetness around there you'll probably need a new slave cylinder (£20). Check the master cylinder buried in the bulkhead behind the engine too.

To bleed:
Get a brake bleed kit from Halfords. The type with a pipe and a one-way valve. Park the car with the nearside (passenger) front corner raised MUCH higher than anything else. Jack the corner up if necessary. Pull the rubber cap off the bleed nipple at the end of the slave cylinder (don't forget to replace it after) and attach the pipe. Stick the other end in a bottle. From memory you'll need a 10mm and 7mm open-ended spanners to fit the nuts on the slave cylinder. Hold the bigger one still and open the smaller one at least half a turn. You may end up with brake fluid on your hands here. Nasty stuff. I recommend latex gloves in retrospect...

With the bleed nut loosened, make sure the brake fluid reservoir is to the brim. Jiggle the reservoir if necessary to get any trapped air out. Pump the clutch with your hand 5 times. No more. Try to push it down quickly and pull it up slowly. Refill the reservoir. Repeat until you've passed at least half a pint into the bottle.

Tighten up the bleed nipple and pump the clutch (you should be able to do it with your foot now) lots - around 50 times. It should firm up around 20 pumps in... If it still sinks, you need a new master cylinder.

Replacing a cylinder is easy. The high pressure pipe (the metal one) is held in by a little metal clip you just need to prise out about 1/4" then you can ease the pipe out.

[fairlight08]

thank u for the info this car is starting to drive round the twist i might get to drive it this year lol well i have defo got the d8 engine i thought it was the black box that goes into the side of the gearbox? i have to push a metal rod in then put it back in one thing with this engine why does every thing have to be behind the damm engine lol

[fairlight08]

hi chaps not good news tryed to bleed the system on the clucth today and its a sealed system so got to replace the whole clucth system cant get a donner as its not possible its gonna cost me £314+the vat to get the parts and to top it off i got layed off from my job not at fairlight garage but my main job so looks like she is gonna sit for a while till i get more work to get the parts

[mjb]

There's always plenty of 406s in breakers yards. You should have no problem finding a D8 hydraulic clutch setup in about 10 minutes of phoning around (they were at least on the v6, 2.0 petrol turbo and 2.1TD)

[fairlight08]

can't be done chap seld system once its off the car thats it cant put in on another car had a chat with a becks today has to be replaced

[mjb]

can't be done chap seld system once its off the car thats it cant put in on another car had a chat with a becks today has to be replaced

Rubbish - I've done it myself. You just remove it all in one go keeping the pipes attached. Only takes a few minutes

[fairlight08]

i will hold u to that so i need a complete system from a brackers yard? so if i can use i second hand one why cant i use the one i already have?

[steve_earwig]

'cos it's knackered?

Looks like you'll need one off of another ES9J4 'cos it's different to the one that goes on all the others

[mjb]

Looks like you'll need one off of another ES9J4 'cos it's different to the one that goes on all the others

Is it? Guess it must be down to the pipe routing

[mjb]

i will hold u to that so i need a complete system from a brackers yard? so if i can use i second hand one why cant i use the one i already have?

Something's broken in your one, probably one of the cylinders. Since it's designed as a sealed system you can't buy a new cylinder because they don't make them separately and you can't put in a new cylinder from something else because there's no way to bleed it, so the whole lot does need to be replaced in one go, without detaching any part

[fairlight08]

right on the same page now lol
i will make a trip to the local pug brackers and see what i can find

[fairlight08]

hi guys been a while sence i have been on the site back to my clucth problem i have not replaced the system yet i have been thinking my clucth was working before i started the engine so is it possible the bell housing has not lotacted prob?
or is just shaged?