110 Hdi Air doser.

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Re: 110 Hdi Air doser.

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rwb wrote:
madmadmax wrote:
rwb wrote:Does the air doeser 'copy' the position of the EGR i.e., block air intake when the EGR is open?
yes
If you blank the EGR without disabling the doser then the system should detect that not enough exhaust gas is being recycled and close the doser.
So EGR blanking should be accompanied by doser disabling?

it will look at the maf and all other inputs but it may make the engine stall if you just take the egr out and not the doser
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Re: 110 Hdi Air doser.

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GingerMagic wrote:Hi, I'm sure they would fit yours, but if you have the time and the skill to knock something up then quids in..!!
I don't think the Nico pipes would fit a 110.

Here's the 110:
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And here's the 2.2:
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Among other things, the inlet manifolds are completely different.
The 2.2 has two dosers, the extra one being on the intercooler bypass that the 110 doesn't have.

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Re: 110 Hdi Air doser.

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Looking at the first of Rich's diagrams, (for the 110), it looks like all you need is the 'Air Hose' (5) as an alternative to the 'Air Doser' (12) and 'Air Hose' (13).
Unfortunately either version will set you back more than £50 at Pug, but the scrappies must be full of them.
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Re: 110 Hdi Air doser.

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Interesting to note on the 2.2 that after about 2002 the air dozers and the pipe were all one big (expensive) bit and you can't buy the connecting flange separately to do the dozer bypass thing because they stopped selling them (intentional?)
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Re: 110 Hdi Air doser.

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Thanks for all the info & input guy's, so I take it it's blank the EGR valve & remove or disable the doser at the same time then :? , but no management issue's or having to dive in with pp2k :supafrisk:
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Will those nico pipes fit 2.2s found in 407s?
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Re: 110 Hdi Air doser.

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The DW12B doesn't have the intercooler bypass (and therefore has only one doser) so they're not needed.

My doser is not working properly at the moment. I think it's sticking shut when the car is cold. Fault code logged but no EML. Symptom is hesitation and clatter when you plant your foot -- which I try not to do when the car is cold anyway. Replacement part ~£150 so at some point it's going to have to come off for having a fiddle with (then break it then buy a new one anyway).

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Re: 110 Hdi Air doser.

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This 2003 110 doesn't seem to have an air doser:
http://www.copart.co.uk/c2/homeSearch.h ... CH_RESULTS
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Re: 110 Hdi Air doser.

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They didn't fit them after March 2003 - viewtopic.php?f=1&t=21522#p216719

Probably more trouble than they're worth :roll:
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