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Welton wrote:I'd love to get this done but am worrried about my poorly clutch (which hasn't slipped now for ages :? )

Did they rolling road the car and check the emissions from the eggsauce?
Welly, your clutch slip is intermittent because your DMF is shot, get one of these solid flywheel clutch kit and then a remap and you'll be laughing all the way to the bank to pay the overdraft :?
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Post by stevenlizuk »

I use Castrol GTD Magnatec in my 2.1 as I found that synthetics burnt off too quickly.
It's about £25 from Halfords or you can get in Costco if you're a member for about £16.

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i use a cheapo 15/40 diesel oil for my 2.1TD ( 204k miles ) and change it when i can be bothered ( which is about every 25k miles :shock: ) . synthetic oil is no use in a high mileage engine , in my 405 mi16 with 130k it just got burned out the exhaust , it stopped the blue smoke with normal oil in there then
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That sounds excellent, so you've gone from 110 to 137 BHP and shed loads more torque?

I've heard that you can 'pootle' around in 4th at 30 after a remap whereas the standard car gets fussy.

I'd love to get this done but am worrried about my poorly clutch (which hasn't slipped now for ages :? )

Did they rolling road the car and check the emissions from the eggsauce?
Sorry for the late reply, but Welton that is definately what has happened. I can quite happily stay at a dead on 30 without the car getting fussy. That is what was happening before the map. I have been driving around for a bit and testing. The whole car feels so much better. With regards to fuel economy, I put in a tenner and drove around town, dual carriage ways, etc, with the occasional burst of power to overtake a couple of Chavs :cheesy: and I managed to get 129 miles out of it before the fuel indicator told me I had 60 miles left.

The car wasn't rolling road tested, however after I got the map done, I went and asked my cousin to drive up against me in his A4 TDi 130ps. I easily kept up with him without any problems. When I was in 3rd I was pulling away from him. We only drove up to 70 as I wanted to test the acceleration. With the map, the car doesn't go all crazy in 1st or 2nd. It feels far more refined and responsive. My D9 has done 57K now and I think it's still got the original clutch. Jamie, the guy that did the re-map said as long as I'm not booting it all the time, the clutch should be fine. I just wanted the extra bit of power for overtaking mondeo's :lol: The torque is just brilliant! If I ever come around your ends, you can have a drive and see. For such a quick mod, I am still amazed at the results. Jamie the guy who mapped it, read the original map and then from that he determined the correct recommended re-map for that particular type. He then asked me what I thought after I took the car for a spin. He also said that If I wasn't satisfied he would put the original back on at no charge. That way I really had nothing to loose. I've been getting a few diirty looks from some taxi drivers too as I just fly past them :lol:
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I used to run mine on GTD Magnatec, which suited th engine well. Once my supply of cheap Mag ceased I went for whichever correctly rated turbo diesel semi synth was the cheapest.
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[quote="jameslxdt]Welly, your clutch slip is intermittent because your DMF is shot, get one of these solid flywheel clutch kit and then a remap and you'll be laughing all the way to the bank to pay the overdraft :?[/quote]James, you might know - can the solid flywheel arrangement from the '90 be fitted to the 110?
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Castrol GTX Magnatec for high mileage cars is what I use and nothing else.

Don't change the oil nearly as often as I should :| :frown:
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is that semi synthetic?
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Too be honest, I never looked.
All I know is it does my engine good. Mine is a 2L Petrol with 193K miles on its clock.
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Welton wrote:Is there really any difference with the K&N 'on the road' :?:
Made the car slightly smother and may 0.5 bhp. The main thing is a dont have to change it :), means the service is normally just oil change, then fuel filter every 20k.
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turbolag wrote:
jameslxdt wrote:Welly, your clutch slip is intermittent because your DMF is shot, get one of these solid flywheel clutch kit and then a remap and you'll be laughing all the way to the bank to pay the overdraft :?
James, you might know - can the solid flywheel arrangement from the '90 be fitted to the 110?
ive no idea, but i know valeo make a kit for the 110 to ditch the DMF for a solid flywheel, its a direct swap apparently
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jameslxdt wrote:
turbolag wrote:
jameslxdt wrote:Welly, your clutch slip is intermittent because your DMF is shot, get one of these solid flywheel clutch kit and then a remap and you'll be laughing all the way to the bank to pay the overdraft :?
James, you might know - can the solid flywheel arrangement from the '90 be fitted to the 110?
ive no idea, but i know valeo make a kit for the 110 to ditch the DMF for a solid flywheel, its a direct swap apparently
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i use mobil 1 fully synth 5/50 or 0-40 depending on what i get at work.
ill post some usefully info on oils relating to engine power later,yes the oil you choose can make a difference to the power your engine makes.Ill scan in the info and test results later when i get home.
Basically its all about choosing the oil that protects the most giving the least friction between metals, yet being thin enough to allow the engine parts to drive through easily not sapping power, oil viscoscity also has to be chosen to the rpm the car revs too aswell. The tests i have show a difference of over 6bhp on a 300bhp car, so not huge differences but 6bhp is still not something to ignore, also the fact your getting the hoigher power shows the oil is working well and protecting the most needing least power to move the engine parts.

ill also explain a bit about mapping for you guys wanting to map the car and explain how it is adjusted etc.
Welton when mapping the car they wont change the idle area of the map (unless they are retards) so wont need to check emissions, IM not sure on what system the diesels run but i would assume its a Hybrid Alpha-n Fueling alogarthym, basically uses tps and map to sense engine load, most cars just use MAP or MAF (with tps just used for acceleration adjustments).

But being a derv thats turbo charged using tps only (ALpha-n mapping) would mean the engine can't detect boost, yet as a derv is also wide open throttle all the time not having a throttle butterfly then off boost it will always be 100Kpa Map so this means MAP alone (Speed density mapping) cant be used as off boost driving would be useless.

so basically you will have a graph like this
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if you lay that over a map like this one
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you can see how you can easily tune one map for economy at cruise area's, power when needed and idle etc.
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Post by dervpower »

Captain Jack wrote:
jameslxdt wrote:dont bother with a remap, its just an expensive way of gaining alot of power
at that sort of mileage though, a remap will kill it
the 2.1 already has more than ample power
You can never have enough power. My 2.1td is lovely with a remap :)

i thought 2.1td was non common rail? can you remap non common rail?
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Post by Malachy »

this has reminded me.

hers the chart i said about

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