Advice on niggly issues...
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- Captain Jack
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Re: Advice on niggly issues...
Ah... OK. I thought it would know from gear selection rather than calculating it.
2003 - 2008: 1998 Peugeot 406 2.1 TD 110bhp LX Saloon
2008 - 2009: 2004 Honda Accord 2.2 CDTI 136bhp Executive Saloon
2009 - 2013: 2002 Peugeot 406 2.0 HDI 110bhp Executive Saloon
2013 - 2021: 2007 Peugeot 407 2.2 HDI 170bhp Executive Saloon (mapped to 213bhp
)
2021 - ????: 2016 Ford Mondeo 2.0 TDCi 180bhp Titanium
2008 - 2009: 2004 Honda Accord 2.2 CDTI 136bhp Executive Saloon
2009 - 2013: 2002 Peugeot 406 2.0 HDI 110bhp Executive Saloon
2013 - 2021: 2007 Peugeot 407 2.2 HDI 170bhp Executive Saloon (mapped to 213bhp

2021 - ????: 2016 Ford Mondeo 2.0 TDCi 180bhp Titanium
Re: Advice on niggly issues...
I think that feature only works on the automatic gearbox. But not sure.Captain Jack wrote:My clutch switch seems fine. What isn't fine is the car (or rather PP2000) always says that I am in neutral, when I can be in any gear....
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- Captain Jack
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Re: Advice on niggly issues...
So where do I start?
The biggest issue is the split second turbo lag when going up a gear "briskly". And it's not a huge issue anyway since it happens maybe once out of 10 times.
MAF or vacuum leak.. MAF seems like the easiest but most expensive thing to change but it is over 9 years old now, so likely not at its best.
The biggest issue is the split second turbo lag when going up a gear "briskly". And it's not a huge issue anyway since it happens maybe once out of 10 times.
MAF or vacuum leak.. MAF seems like the easiest but most expensive thing to change but it is over 9 years old now, so likely not at its best.
2003 - 2008: 1998 Peugeot 406 2.1 TD 110bhp LX Saloon
2008 - 2009: 2004 Honda Accord 2.2 CDTI 136bhp Executive Saloon
2009 - 2013: 2002 Peugeot 406 2.0 HDI 110bhp Executive Saloon
2013 - 2021: 2007 Peugeot 407 2.2 HDI 170bhp Executive Saloon (mapped to 213bhp
)
2021 - ????: 2016 Ford Mondeo 2.0 TDCi 180bhp Titanium
2008 - 2009: 2004 Honda Accord 2.2 CDTI 136bhp Executive Saloon
2009 - 2013: 2002 Peugeot 406 2.0 HDI 110bhp Executive Saloon
2013 - 2021: 2007 Peugeot 407 2.2 HDI 170bhp Executive Saloon (mapped to 213bhp

2021 - ????: 2016 Ford Mondeo 2.0 TDCi 180bhp Titanium
Re: Advice on niggly issues...
buy second hand from a scrapyard. My money is still on the clutch switch. Can also be bought second hand.Captain Jack wrote:So where do I start?
The biggest issue is the split second turbo lag when going up a gear "briskly". And it's not a huge issue anyway since it happens maybe once out of 10 times.
MAF or vacuum leak.. MAF seems like the easiest but most expensive thing to change but it is over 9 years old now, so likely not at its best.
Dont believe the turbolag is MAF related. I must be a bad connection in a sensor. It will most likely get worse over time, and by that easier to locate.
I still put my money on the clutch switch

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- Captain Jack
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Re: Advice on niggly issues...
I am still very dubious about the clutch switch. It's either on or off. PP knows when the clutch pedal is down or up - surely it can't be that.
2003 - 2008: 1998 Peugeot 406 2.1 TD 110bhp LX Saloon
2008 - 2009: 2004 Honda Accord 2.2 CDTI 136bhp Executive Saloon
2009 - 2013: 2002 Peugeot 406 2.0 HDI 110bhp Executive Saloon
2013 - 2021: 2007 Peugeot 407 2.2 HDI 170bhp Executive Saloon (mapped to 213bhp
)
2021 - ????: 2016 Ford Mondeo 2.0 TDCi 180bhp Titanium
2008 - 2009: 2004 Honda Accord 2.2 CDTI 136bhp Executive Saloon
2009 - 2013: 2002 Peugeot 406 2.0 HDI 110bhp Executive Saloon
2013 - 2021: 2007 Peugeot 407 2.2 HDI 170bhp Executive Saloon (mapped to 213bhp

2021 - ????: 2016 Ford Mondeo 2.0 TDCi 180bhp Titanium
Re: Advice on niggly issues...
At this point in the cars life, it would be a prudent choice to replace the MAF regardless of if you are having issues or not. Even on a car with an old (albeit functional) MAF, you'd be surprised how much more spritely if feels after replacement. As I said earlier (and have evidence to support it), the exact symptoms you are describing can and probably will be MAF related.
2001/Y Peugeot 406 2.0 HDi Saloon
150hp/330nm • Powerflow stainless exhaust • Kevlar clutch • Cat delete • EGR & Doser delete • Leather interior • Windows tinted • Cruise control • 5 dial cluster • Yatour bluetooth • Starfish alloys • Twin rear fogs
150hp/330nm • Powerflow stainless exhaust • Kevlar clutch • Cat delete • EGR & Doser delete • Leather interior • Windows tinted • Cruise control • 5 dial cluster • Yatour bluetooth • Starfish alloys • Twin rear fogs
Re: Advice on niggly issues...
thats what i thought. But just think how many times you have pressed the clutch down. Just saying.Captain Jack wrote:I am still very dubious about the clutch switch. It's either on or off. PP knows when the clutch pedal is down or up - surely it can't be that.
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If it aint broke dont fix it.fattail95 wrote:At this point in the cars life, it would be a prudent choice to replace the MAF regardless of if you are having issues or not. Even on a car with an old (albeit functional) MAF, you'd be surprised how much more spritely if feels after replacement. As I said earlier (and have evidence to support it), the exact symptoms you are describing can and probably will be MAF related.
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Re: Advice on niggly issues...
I used to think that too, but the improvement you get swapping a new MAF for a tired but functional one more that makes up for the cost of doing so.barbaren wrote:If it aint broke dont fix it.fattail95 wrote:At this point in the cars life, it would be a prudent choice to replace the MAF regardless of if you are having issues or not. Even on a car with an old (albeit functional) MAF, you'd be surprised how much more spritely if feels after replacement. As I said earlier (and have evidence to support it), the exact symptoms you are describing can and probably will be MAF related.
Having said that I would also recommend hanging on for a decent discount if you can afford to wait. Got 30% off my last one IIRC
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- Captain Jack
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The price difference between them on fleaBay is quite marked. Some are 40-odd quid, some around 80, some well over 100. I am guess the £40 mark ones are Chinese ones and not worth the money whereas £80 ones are the real deal?
2003 - 2008: 1998 Peugeot 406 2.1 TD 110bhp LX Saloon
2008 - 2009: 2004 Honda Accord 2.2 CDTI 136bhp Executive Saloon
2009 - 2013: 2002 Peugeot 406 2.0 HDI 110bhp Executive Saloon
2013 - 2021: 2007 Peugeot 407 2.2 HDI 170bhp Executive Saloon (mapped to 213bhp
)
2021 - ????: 2016 Ford Mondeo 2.0 TDCi 180bhp Titanium
2008 - 2009: 2004 Honda Accord 2.2 CDTI 136bhp Executive Saloon
2009 - 2013: 2002 Peugeot 406 2.0 HDI 110bhp Executive Saloon
2013 - 2021: 2007 Peugeot 407 2.2 HDI 170bhp Executive Saloon (mapped to 213bhp

2021 - ????: 2016 Ford Mondeo 2.0 TDCi 180bhp Titanium
Re: Advice on niggly issues...
And here I was thinking preventative maintenance was a good thing........barbaren wrote:If it aint broke dont fix it.fattail95 wrote:At this point in the cars life, it would be a prudent choice to replace the MAF regardless of if you are having issues or not. Even on a car with an old (albeit functional) MAF, you'd be surprised how much more spritely if feels after replacement. As I said earlier (and have evidence to support it), the exact symptoms you are describing can and probably will be MAF related.
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2001/Y Peugeot 406 2.0 HDi Saloon
150hp/330nm • Powerflow stainless exhaust • Kevlar clutch • Cat delete • EGR & Doser delete • Leather interior • Windows tinted • Cruise control • 5 dial cluster • Yatour bluetooth • Starfish alloys • Twin rear fogs
150hp/330nm • Powerflow stainless exhaust • Kevlar clutch • Cat delete • EGR & Doser delete • Leather interior • Windows tinted • Cruise control • 5 dial cluster • Yatour bluetooth • Starfish alloys • Twin rear fogs
Re: Advice on niggly issues...
what ever you decide to do. Forget all about the cheap Chinese ones.Captain Jack wrote:The price difference between them on fleaBay is quite marked. Some are 40-odd quid, some around 80, some well over 100. I am guess the £40 mark ones are Chinese ones and not worth the money whereas £80 ones are the real deal?
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I've got a cheap chinese one, works really well,,,,,, on the shelf in the garage.
But I had to buy a proper one to get the car going right.
I reckon if you had 6 genuine MAFs you would have 6 different driving characteristics. Is that like doctors?
But I had to buy a proper one to get the car going right.
I reckon if you had 6 genuine MAFs you would have 6 different driving characteristics. Is that like doctors?
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Re: Advice on niggly issues...
re. the clutch switch, one thing I noticed was that when disconnected the RPM would drop and recover when stopping and going into neutral.
I can't say I noticed it being more or less 'jolty'. But then mine is far from smooth on a good day.
I can't say I noticed it being more or less 'jolty'. But then mine is far from smooth on a good day.
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Re: Advice on niggly issues...
Is it 1920LK? (1920HH for 2.0 HDi)
Neither Euro nor GSF seem to have one, and they're hard to find on eBay.
Cheapest I could see is £80 http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/171376889437
Neither Euro nor GSF seem to have one, and they're hard to find on eBay.
Cheapest I could see is £80 http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/171376889437
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