Clutch judder on a new clutch ?

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Clutch judder on a new clutch ?

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hello all, had a new clutch fitted 6 months ago 1.9td bout a month back car got a bad judder in reverse only but now its also doing it in 1st gear , its very bad when the engine is very hot and car has been in use for over 2 hours,

can a clutch really fail after 6 months ? what would be the reason for this ? wrongly fitted ?

the person that fitted it says the clutch MAY be covered under guarantee BUT labour isnt and i will have to pay for a new clutch fitted again :x
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sometimes clutch feels as thos its sticky, could i havea faulty cable ?

can a faulty cable cause clutch judder ?
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Sounds as though the release bearing may be sticking, did they replace it with the clutch?
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not sure, does that come with the clutch kit ?
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Usually. I was thinking engine mountings meself :?
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Re: Clutch judder on a new clutch ?

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ye i thought engine mount because when i start the car up everytime there is a loud KNOCK noise, only when the engine fires is the KNOCK felt and heard

its as tho the engine jumps and knocks as it lands ????
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Gary406 wrote:the person that fitted it says the clutch MAY be covered under guarantee BUT labour isnt and i will have to pay for a new clutch fitted again :x
WRONG! If they screwed up (and a dodgy clutch won't cause judder, just poor fitting) then they're legally obliged to fix it


However it does sound like an engine mount...
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ok thanks mjb will bare that in mind, im gonna get mounts checked out today ....

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Re: Clutch judder on a new clutch ?

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checked clutch cable today. i pulled it back and forth from the bracket and its making a very unusual sound like its scraping inside sumwere,

can also feel a vibration when the noise is heard as well, gonna replace it this weekend see if that stops the judder 8)
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can a sticky clutch cable cause clutch judder

THE JUDDER ONLY HAPPENS WHEN ENGINE IS HOT (IN USE FOR OVER 1 TO 2 HOURS)

WHEN ITS COLD THERE IS NO JUDDER AT ALL
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Re: Clutch judder on a new clutch ?

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Yes, your cable could cause the judder, but make sure your engine mountings are in good condition first.
I have had judder with driving school cars where the dust from the clutch material has clogged the bearing slide and when warmed up causes the bearing to stick on its slide....lack of correct lube on the slide can also cause judder (sticking bearing).
Check the terms of your warranty, did it include parts and labour? Most clutch warranties might not cover the labour, if the clutch is faulty, the garage could quite rightly argue that there was nothing wrong with their work so they are entitled to get paid for replacing the faulty clutch....unless as I mentioned, you have a parts AND labour warranty.
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when i press the clutch peddle you can feel a sticky squeeky noise as well as feeling it in your foot,

also the bracket that the clutch cable pulls when the clutch it pressed is also making a creeking sticky noise

its like a noise you get from door hinges in your home when you havnt oiled them for 10 years 8)
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todaY i sprayed WD40 on the bracket that the clutch cable connects to on top of the gear box,

the judder has eased up a lot better now it doesnt do it half as bad, still get that slight judder in reverse tho,

could it be the nilon bushes that the bar sits in ?

im gonna try sum silicone spray 1st, but so far so good its pointing to the nilon bushes i think 8)
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Gary406 wrote:when i press the clutch peddle you can feel a sticky squeeky noise as well as feeling it in your foot,
The exact symptoms for a rusted clutch cable. Lubricating won't do anything more than mildly ease the problem for a day or two - you need a new cable...
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Re: Clutch judder on a new clutch ?

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okcheers for that mjb will get a new cable fitted at the weekend, im also getting a slight squeek from the bar that goes into the gearbox at the top that the cable pulls forward, im thinking get the nylon bushes changed with the cable 8)
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