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Hi all,

Slightly strange first question but I'm info gathering and here seems like probably the best place to help me out. I'm looking to find the actual weight of the V6 engine (and manual box), fully dressed with manifolds, alternator etc or alone. Seems like a pretty good engine for transplant but one source claims 110kg, whereas another claims 223kg. That's quite a difference 110kg puts it into the realms of an all alu I4 engine, 223 puts it into the realms of a cast iron turbocharged I4.

Any help appreciated but if I'd appreciate it if people could be pretty sure about their source/values otherwise it's a bit of a waste of everyones time. If anyone is likely to have weighed an ES9 engine, one of you lot will have

Hi there, welcome What are you up to then?

Actually we're not the people to ask, the vast majority of the bods on this site are trying to keep our heaps going on a shoestring. If there's anywhere that can help you it'll be those crazy people over on the coupe club (www.peugeot406coupe.com). They even have a resident breaker who could probably go out and weigh one if you asked him nicely enough.

Thanks for the welcome! As for keeping heaps going - I'm well used to that but I'm a firm lover of peugeots and the fact that they're generally nice and cheap and easy to fix unlike most cars Started with a 205, then a 306 and now considering putting the heart of a 406 into a self-designed spaceframe chassis, in an Atom style arrangement. Just trying to identify how it compares, power/weight wise, with a 3S-GTE from toyota and an Audi 4.2 V8! Thanks for the pointer to the other site, I'll skip over there and see if anyone there can answer my questions, but I'll leave the question open here too - you never know

Is this to do with handling, sacrifice a bit to have a v6 sound over the quite plain sound of a 4pot. thats if it even affects handling at all.

they cant be to heavey as ive seen them in 205/309 and theres a 306 estate on ebay now with one in

Yeah, it's a tradeoff of weight against stock power, including a hint of potential power. No point in putting a V6 in when I can put an I4 in and get the same power in a smaller volume and lower mass. Hence the investigations

but a v6 is a V6 think of the noise any tuning done to a 4pot can easily be done to a v6 to get more power

I think the ES9J4 adds about 50KG to the weight of a non-coupé* 406 over most other engines. Some of that will be the extra weight of the bigger exhaust but otherwise the model differences are minimal

* The V6 coupés get brembo callipers and bigger discs, which add more to the weight difference

There is a table of engine weights for various cars here which includes the V6 from the 406 (ES9J4):
http://fixrambler.com/engineweightchart.txt

The figure it shows does seem rather high though so treat it as entertainment rather than gospel.

k_f wrote:There is a table of engine weights for various cars here which includes the V6 from the 406 (ES9J4):
http://fixrambler.com/engineweightchart.txt

The figure it shows does seem rather high though so treat it as entertainment rather than gospel.

Nicely found! 215KG really doesn't seem that far from what I'd put it at with all ancillaries (ac compressor, alternator, manifolds, etc) on