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clutch

Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 5:21 pm
by marcus
Hi,

I have a 90bhp 2001 HDi. It has always been a tiny bit hard to engage gears but it has suddenly become very very hard. It doen't slip. Is it adjustable, or related to fluids, in any sense or does this imply a new clutch?

I live in NE London, anyone know a reliable (cheap) garage, if adjustable.....

cheers

Marcus

Re: clutch

Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 5:50 pm
by Gary406
any judder in 1st gear setting off ?

Re: clutch

Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 5:51 pm
by omega
is the clutch pedal higher or lower than your brake pedal?

Re: clutch

Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 6:03 pm
by marcus
i've just been to have another look, it does judder when clutch is depressed but more pronounced if I am moving, so going into 2nd. Also the gears engage without a problem when the engine is off, so as long as I dont need to go anywhere I'll be fine....But i'll have to have another look re height, higher I think

cheers

Re: clutch

Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 6:07 pm
by marcus
a fraction higher

Re: clutch

Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 6:10 pm
by jasper5
Where is your biting point? Is it near the floor? Is the pedal sloppy when you press it down until near the floor?
If this is the case you may have a hydraulic problem, look at the slave cylinder, just in front of the radiator, and see if there is any fluid leaking.

Re: clutch

Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 6:14 pm
by marcus
jasper5 wrote:Where is your biting point? Is it near the floor? Is the pedal sloppy when you press it down until near the floor?
If this is the case you may have a hydraulic problem, look at the slave cylinder, just in front of the radiator, and see if there is any fluid leaking.
Peddle is and has always been stiff throughout its travel, crap for my knee, and bites about 2/3rds of the way down...I'll look for leaks when it light.

cheers

Re: clutch

Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 6:21 pm
by jasper5
I would guess that if the clutch is tight all the way then you may not have a leak, but if the biting point is near the floor then you may have a problem with the clutch pressure plate and or release bearing, or a damaged spinner plate (new clutch required).

Re: clutch

Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 10:53 am
by mjb
Doesn't the hdi90 have a cable clutch?

Sounds like the original problem (hard to engage gears) may just be a linkage problem. Suggest popping the ball joints off the gear selector arms, give 'em a bit of a clean and slap some grease around on 'em

Re: clutch

Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 12:18 pm
by marcus
MJB, where are the linkage ball joints to be found?

I called a Waters Peugeot who won't look at it for less than £70, my local place said it must be gear box but then agreed to look at it tomorrow.

I took it for a proper drive and it doesn't slip, pedal is as always, occasionally it engages fine but mostly all gears are very hared to find and sometimes they grind hideously as I rattle the lever around.

Still looking at all other clutch posts its either totally buggered or its linkages.....

so thanks for replies and I'll post my outcome for future ref...

cheers

Re: clutch

Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 2:47 pm
by mjb
Pull the air filter box out and you should see the linkage to the top/rear of the gearbox...

Re: clutch

Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 5:02 pm
by jasper5
If the gears engage fine without the engine running but not with the engine running, the problem must be the clutch.

The clutch is hydraulic, my 2001 HDi 90 certainly was, the slave cylinder is at the front of the engine/gearbox, in front of the radiator held on with 2 bolts.

Re: clutch

Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2010 1:01 pm
by mjb
jasper5 wrote:If the gears engage fine without the engine running but not with the engine running, the problem must be the clutch.
I missed the "fine without the engine running" bit :oops:

The symptoms don't sound like a fluid leak or cylinder failure, but it could be knackered fluid... I think if there were the slightest of doubt, I'd certainly think about replacing the fluid, or even the entire hydraulic system, before attacking the clutch itself... Heck, next time I need a new clutch on anything FWD I'll probably just buy a new engine+gearbox, fit the clutch to that off the car then swap engines :lol:

Re: clutch

Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2010 1:58 pm
by steve_earwig
mjb wrote:...or even the entire hydraulic system
Even the calipers? :shock: I think you mean the fluid in the entire hydraulic system - which, if it's bad in the clutch hydraulics, will be just as bad. Make that dangerous.

Re: clutch

Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2010 2:17 am
by totaleclipse
change the gear oil and come back to us.