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loud running engine. timing?
Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2011 3:41 pm
by nixesteve
Hey guys another problem.
Ok the engine seems to be louder than when i got the car, its seems to be tapping/knocking. The noise follows the revs i think. the car is high mileage but can this be fixed? i realy want to keep the car, so dont mind spending on it.
Any thoughts? My friend mentioned timing?
(i have the 2001 pug 406 2.0 HDI , with 108k on)
Thanks appreciate all the help

Re: loud running engine. timing?
Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2011 4:15 pm
by lozz
nixesteve wrote:Hey guys another problem.
Ok the engine seems to be louder than when i got the car, its seems to be tapping/knocking. The noise follows the revs i think. the car is high mileage but can this be fixed? i realy want to keep the car, so dont mind spending on it.
Any thoughts? My friend mentioned timing?
(i have the 2001 pug 406 2.0 HDI , with 108k on)
Thanks appreciate all the help

Hi mate,
IThink if you had timing problems you wouid have other symptoms,
eg, stuggle to start,
Smokey,
and they do rattle if its out but , normaly theyre a swine to start if timings out,
Have you tried an oil change or giving the car a flush sometimes it helps, ?
Re: loud running engine. timing?
Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2011 5:04 pm
by nixesteve
Hi, thanks for reply.
The car is not the best at starting, sometimes it struggles especially when its cold outside.
Will change the oil and see what happens.
Thanks so far

Re: loud running engine. timing?
Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2011 5:08 pm
by Gary406
have the bottom pulley checked out on the cambelt ?
quite common for them to go and come loose
thats the first thing i would check for sure
Re: loud running engine. timing?
Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2011 5:10 pm
by Gary406
you think 108k is high milage ?
i'll let you into a little secret , its not even run in yet mate
pug diesels are well known for acheiving well over 200k , keep it serviced yearly and it will run over 200k easily
108k is low

Re: loud running engine. timing?
Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2011 5:47 pm
by Doggy
Bottom (dual mass) pulley is the first thing to check - look for rust / iron filings in that area. Easiest to see if you take the inspection cover off under the wheelarch.
Re: loud running engine. timing?
Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2011 8:28 pm
by steve_earwig
Could be injectors, mine are worryingly noisy. Injector noise goes at exactly 3,200rpm. And the only cure is to sell both kidneys to buy a new set of injectors
Check out the crank pulley as above though, it could be serious.
Re: loud running engine. timing?
Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 8:15 am
by Welly
Bottom pulley!
Nasty, nasty noise when they get near the end of life

Re: loud running engine. timing?
Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 3:38 pm
by FarmerPug
so the crankshaft pulleys a dmf style thing also? a solid conversion is whats needed.
Other signs of loudness could be a blow out in the exhaust as i had, the car got quite loud.
Re: loud running engine. timing?
Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 7:09 pm
by Archangel
Gary406 wrote:you think 108k is high milage ?
i'll let you into a little secret , its not even run in yet mate
pug diesels are well known for acheiving well over 200k , keep it serviced yearly and it will run over 200k easily
108k is low

very low mine just reached 238,000 christmas eve
Re: loud running engine. timing?
Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 7:40 pm
by FarmerPug
wow theres plently of life left in a lot of 406s yet.
Re: loud running engine. timing?
Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2011 2:08 pm
by nixesteve
hey guys quick update.
having the car on the ramp i found a nice big whole in the exhaust on the bend just before the backbox!
Im also going to check the pulley and see if needs replacing.
Could anyone reccommend any exhaust? This may sound stupid but can you get a sporty sound out of a diese? or should I stick with the standard?
Thanks great advice so far!!!!!

Re: loud running engine. timing?
Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2011 3:46 pm
by highlander
I bought a Powerflow stainless steel exhaust system (yes steve_earwig, I'm whoring Powerflow again, and no, I'm not getting paid!

) for my 1.8 petrol.
It cost £320 (designed, built, fitted, inc. VAT), which was more than £100 less than what I was quoted for an original Peugeot exhaust system.
The stainless steel system will outlive the car. Furthermore, Powerflow provide a lifetime warranty on the system, for as long as you own the car, and as long as you take it back to your Powerflow dealer for a quick free inspection once a year.
There's some 2.2 HDi owners on the Coupe Club who have had stainless systems fitted. Sure, you can get a sporty exhaust note from a Diesel - you need to tell the dealer that you want a sport sound from your exhaust.
The only caveat is, you gotta tell your insurance company you've had one fitted, as they're seen as performance modifications - even if, like me, you only fitted one because your original system had gone to pot and it'd cost more to put another rot-prone system back on the car.
Re: loud running engine. timing?
Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2011 5:05 pm
by steve_earwig
highlander wrote:(yes steve_earwig, I'm whoring Powerflow again, and no, I'm not getting paid!

)
I reckon somebody's status needs upgrading...
Re: loud running engine. timing?
Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2011 5:15 pm
by Doggy