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Black Smoke/performace

Post by xplosiv »

Hi,

I have just replaced the EGR Valve, taken the car out for a spin, and it is still not pulling as much as it should in low revs.

and the car is still producing black smoke : -

1) It has been for a full peugeot service
2) Cam Belt and water pump have been changed
3) ECU Checked for Errors - Non found
4) Replaced EGR Valve for a new one - and given the pipe work a good clean

ANYBODY HAVE ANY IDEAS

ANdy

NB; would it be worth getting a turbo gauge to check the turbo is working? if so can some one give me a website address for a cheap on i can fit my self
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Post by Foghorn Leghorn »

I was going to say the cambelt might be out a tooth or so, but you've had that changed. Was it smoking etc before the cambelt change?

Worn injectors?
MAF?
oxygen sensors?

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Post by xplosiv »

Hi,

Worn injectors - I hope not the car has only done 56K (how do i test that theory)

MAF - WHat the hell is a MAF (and how do i test it)

oxygen sensors - Where are they and how do i test

Yes it was smoking (black only) before the cambelt change

Andy

NB : Tried Injection Cleanner
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Post by Foghorn Leghorn »

Injectors have to checked by a specialist, not something you can do yourself.

The MAF is the air sensor in the intake pipe after the air filter. If this is not working correctly then it can cause the car to run rich/lean. Not sure how to check this, it may be a case of just cleaning it. Might have to wait until someone more knowledgable comes along......waits for Niz, Malachy etc

The oxygen sensor or lambda sensor is in your exhaust. It monitors the gases leaving the engine and again is used to control the fuel/air mixture. So if this is not working correctly it could also cause the engine to run lean/rich. I think these can be cleaned and checked but will have to wait for someone more knowledgable again.

I know that the lambda sensor can become sluggish after time, and have heard people recommend changing them every 30-50k miles.

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Hi,

Niz, Malachy do you have any ideas?

Thanks

Andy
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Post by xplosiv »

Hi,

I am sending the car to a Fuel Injection Services near my house; they will do a full diagnostic on the car for £60. Cheaper than the Pug Dealer and they will actually find out what is wrong as appose to the pug dealer who will just replace random parts until it is fixed

I will let you know how I get on;

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Post by turbolag »

i take it that it's an HDi???

Have the problems been present since the cambelt change? I don't believe in coincidences, so if that's when it started it's probaly not fitted right. It's not beyond the realms of possibility that they've not reconnected something properly when they've finnished up, so check all connectors on that side of the engine may are pushed properly home.

MAF is the next place to check. Try cleaning the elements carefully with a cotton bud soaked in solvent. They can get dirty, especially if a oiled air filter, such as a K & N, is fitted.

I'm sure it's possible to electrically check the MAF with a multimeter, so it might be worth investing in a Haynes manual (or similar) before lashing out more dosh to the dealers. A fault code read should identify any potential MAF problem, and might also highlight the problem if it lies elsewhere.

The MAF sounds a favourite to me, but you might also consider posting the problem on the forums at http://www.psooc.com, although it goes without saying they're not nearly as good as this illustrious site!
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Post by xplosiv »

The problem was there before the cam belt was changed, as for the air filter, it is the standard one that came with the car.

Yes My car is the new shape 2.0 110bhp (v reg 1999)

I will have a look at the MAF, how do I get at it?

When I removed the old EGR Valve, I noticed the valve completely covered, so i replaced it with a new one and cleaned all the pipes.

Any other ideas, maybe the waste gate on the turbo is sticking or the vacuum valves are not switching or creating a vacuum, I think I will send it to the injection people above as I have still not got all my performance back (although the EGR valve made a tiny difference)

They will do a full electronic and mechanical test of the engine for £60, not to bad really

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Post by turbolag »

Locate the air filter housing and trace backwards along the pipework. The MAF sits about 4" to the rear of the airbox and it the gubbins with the electrical connector going in to it.

I'm pretty sure that's the cause of your woes, and doesn't cost a great deal to replace if its kacked.
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