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Hi all,
I'm now the proud owner of a 406 Rapier Estate.
I've got a few naive questions:

1) Timing belt:
What is the anticipated lifetime of timing belts (both originally fitted and replacement)

2) Crank pulley:
I think I'm a little confused by some of the threads, is the crank pulley plastic or is it metal? Or does it vary? Is the crank pulley prone to failure? if so, is it dependent upon material?

3) Diesel fuel filter:
Looking through through service records, I noticed that the diesel fuel filter seems to be changed at virtually every service - Why is this? Is it an overzealous garage or is the filter insubstantial in comparison to the fuel filter that my XUD7TE had?

4) Tyre pressures:
What are the correct tyre pressures? They're not in my owners book, checking them has left me horrified - one of the rear ones was 45psi - this can't be right.

5) I'm familiar with the XUD7TE that was on my Rover 418 TD - are there any parts that are compatible that I should salvage as possible spares (from the good engine attached to a rotting body - I'm already intending to put the oil cooler onto my MGF if it'll fit for instance)

Sorry if any of these questions seem daft, but they're as I think of them.

Thank you.

The only one of your questions I can answer (being a petrolhead and not a diesel owner) is the tyre pressure. You're looking at 34psi for each tyre.

To be sure though, you should open the drivers' door - on the A pillar there should be a white sticker showing things like tyre size and speed ratings, tyre pressure, build code, paint code, etc.

Mine's 2.3 bar all round. There should be a data label on the driver's a-post. Hold on...

That's mine.

What else was there?

Most of this stuff is on Service Box - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.com/ , sort yourself out an account 'cos it's useful. When you sign up you don't have to answer everything or tell the truth. The handbooks are at the bottom of this page , they only go back to 2002 though.

Timing belt: 2.0 HDi - long journeys - 96,000 miles / 10 years, lots of short journeys - 80,000 miles / 5 years. If you have no history for the car change it now for peace of mind I can't see what difference being the original or replacement would make.

Crank pulleys are a two piece affair, separated by "rubber". This perishes over time, allowing the outer half to move against the inner, eventually it'll break up and drop the aux belt which invariably ends up inside the timing belt cover destroying the timing belt. Woo.

Fuel filter - 36,000 miles/30,000 miles.

Tyre pressures we did.

Errr, probably bugger all.

Welcome in mate, can't help with much on your list but as for the fuel filters, I change mine when I do all the other filters, for what they cost I class them as a service part. As I have a D8(Mk1) it's a simple 2 minute job to do while you've got the bonnet up

My rule of thumb on cam belts is every 70,000 whatever the book says (unless it's less) lets face it they're made of rubber and affected by, heat, weather, oil.....etc, if it snaps it's likely to be terminal.

HDi (90) right?

(1) 5 years or 100,000 miles. On its second change you should also fit a new water pump and thermostat while you're at it.

(2) Its a stupid dual mass thing that falls apart. Variety of symptoms including rattles and juddering, so you'll know when it needs changing.

(3) Over-zealous yes. I'm on 174k and my second fuel filter (that that was only because I had a nasty experience with some biodiesel).

(4) Correct inflation on 195/65 R15 is 34psi.

(5) No.

[quote="rwb"]HDi (90) right?

(1) 5 years or 100,000 miles. On its second change you should also fit a new water pump and thermostat while you're at it.

(2) Its a stupid dual mass thing that falls apart. Variety of symptoms including rattles and juddering, so you'll know when it needs changing.

(3) Over-zealous yes. I'm on 174k and my second fuel filter (that that was only because I had a nasty experience with some biodiesel).

(4) Correct inflation on 195/65 R15 is 34psi.

I do it slightly differently..

(3) You should change the fuel filter every 30k miles or as i do, every other oil change.

(4) for an estate 45 psi is fine for the rears if you carry some weight in the back, if not a bit lower as shown on Steves data plate. Tyre pressures should be varied according to load, as per the data plate. Or set it in the middle of the range as i do.

highlander wrote:The only one of your questions I can answer (being a petrolhead and not a diesel owner) is the tyre pressure. You're looking at 34psi for each tyre.

To be sure though, you should open the drivers' door - on the A pillar there should be a white sticker showing things like tyre size and speed ratings, tyre pressure, build code, paint code, etc.

Hi, thank you for your help, I checked for a sticker on the pillars, the door edge, boot, under the bonnet but it looks like it must've been removed by a previous owner.

Thank you for the pressure.

steve_earwig wrote:Mine's 2.3 bar all round. There should be a data label on the driver's a-post. Hold on...

That's mine.

What else was there?

Most of this stuff is on Service Box - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.com/ , sort yourself out an account 'cos it's useful. When you sign up you don't have to answer everything or tell the truth. The handbooks are at the bottom of this page , they only go back to 2002 though.

Timing belt: 2.0 HDi - long journeys - 96,000 miles / 10 years, lots of short journeys - 80,000 miles / 5 years. If you have no history for the car change it now for peace of mind I can't see what difference being the original or replacement would make.

Crank pulleys are a two piece affair, separated by "rubber". This perishes over time, allowing the outer half to move against the inner, eventually it'll break up and drop the aux belt which invariably ends up inside the timing belt cover destroying the timing belt. Woo.

Fuel filter - 36,000 miles/30,000 miles.

Tyre pressures we did.

Errr, probably bugger all.

ah ok, that photo is handy - thank you, I'll make a note of that.
Service box sounds intriguing - I'll take a look.
I agree re timing belt that's my biggest fear atm.
Thank you for clearing up the crank pulley info - that's really been confusing me!

Shame about the lack of "spares" from the XUD7, but I was wondering whether I could take the Intercooler from the 418 and pop that onto the 406 in time.
I'm planning upon taking the oil cooler for my MGF too...

rwb wrote:HDi (90) right?

(1) 5 years or 100,000 miles. On its second change you should also fit a new water pump and thermostat while you're at it.

(2) Its a stupid dual mass thing that falls apart. Variety of symptoms including rattles and juddering, so you'll know when it needs changing.

(3) Over-zealous yes. I'm on 174k and my second fuel filter (that that was only because I had a nasty experience with some biodiesel).

(4) Correct inflation on 195/65 R15 is 34psi.

(5) No.

Heh - ok - I think that I'll go for the "safest"of all options presented.
I'm intrigued by your "Bio-diesel" story - is there a post?

Ok People,

Thank you for all of your responses - I really appreciate it.
I'm going to get the timing belt kit, water pump & Crank pulley sorted as my first priority and take it from there.

looking at the pressures 2.3/2.5 bar and 2.3/3.2 bar - I'm amazed at the range - I've just got to get them balanced out and appropriate to current usage requirements.

My other minor problem is the indicator stalk has gone "floppy" - it doesn't "notch" properly so it drops into "left" when going over rough ground. I feel a trawl of eBay on the cards!

Thank you all.

bytecode wrote:...the indicator stalk has gone "floppy"...

That'll be the COM2000

Remember the tyre pressure depends on what size wheels you have and the tyre dimensions.

Floppy indicators are well known.

COM2000.

It's a unit that sits behind the steering wheel, your indicators and wiper stalks, as wheel as stereo controls (and cruise if fitted) are attached to this.
I also believe it contains the logic for the auto lights and wipers.

I got mine about £140 off ebay, they're about £300+ off dealers.

Couple of hour job, disconnect Airbag ECU in centre console, screwdriver up steering wheel to pop out airbag, torx screws to take the wheel off (you may need to get a 55 size key). Easy enough job though for a nice weekend day. There is a good guide on the forum somewhere.

I'm not sure if many parts are exchangable between HDi and XUD?
HDi isn't recommended to run biodiesel, unlike the XUD.

Not necessarily com2000, the old sort broke too.

Out of interest, and somewhat off topic, was your 418 R8 or HHR?