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90 v's 110 bhp HDI

Posted: Wed May 11, 2011 6:11 pm
by jam
Is there much difference between the two? also can a 90 be mapped to 110?

Re: 90 v's 110 bhp HDI

Posted: Wed May 11, 2011 6:14 pm
by Gary406
yes there is a difference one is 90 bhp and 1 is 110bhp which will make a whole lot of difference.

yes the 90 can be remapped to 110.

and the 110 can be remapped to just under 140 .

Re: 90 v's 110 bhp HDI

Posted: Wed May 11, 2011 6:16 pm
by jam
Do all 110's have an intercooler?

Re: 90 v's 110 bhp HDI

Posted: Wed May 11, 2011 6:21 pm
by Doggy
Yep.

Re: 90 v's 110 bhp HDI

Posted: Wed May 11, 2011 6:23 pm
by jam
Thanks all

Re: 90 v's 110 bhp HDI

Posted: Wed May 11, 2011 6:28 pm
by lozz
they rekon remap is 142 top whack on a 110,


one here on the y tube

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3Yp3iJsGHk

there quick enough for me 8)

Re: 90 v's 110 bhp HDI

Posted: Wed May 11, 2011 7:24 pm
by jam
Where is the engine no located? thanks

Re: 90 v's 110 bhp HDI

Posted: Wed May 11, 2011 7:35 pm
by FarmerPug
lozz wrote:they rekon remap is 142 top whack on a 110,


one here on the y tube

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3Yp3iJsGHk

there quick enough for me 8)
i reckon that car hits 60 (100kph) in about under 11 seconds, the 2.2 hdi does it in that.

but another difference between the two engines is the 90bhp doesnt have a dual mass flywheel i believe.

Re: 90 v's 110 bhp HDI

Posted: Wed May 11, 2011 8:22 pm
by Catflem
I've got the 90bhp version, and for most people it would suit their needs.

But I do a lot of driving on twisty country roads, and its not really suitable for these. Sure it'll maintain the speed limit, and it corners well, but the main problem is when you need to get past slower moving traffic, there just isn't enough oomph to get you past anything doing 40 to 50 mph in as short a time as possible (Time exposed to danger).

If you've got the choice, I'd go for the 110bhp version.

Re: 90 v's 110 bhp HDI

Posted: Wed May 11, 2011 8:28 pm
by rwb
Other advantages of the 90:
* No dual-mass flywheel
* Siemens fuel system that has no low pressure pump in fuel tank

Other advantages of the 110:
* Much more useful power and torque at low revs -- see power and torque curves
* Longer gearing in 5th

They're both in the same tax band (F @ £130/year).

I think which is best depends how you drive and what kinds of road you will drive on.

Re: 90 v's 110 bhp HDI

Posted: Wed May 11, 2011 10:11 pm
by lozz
FarmerPug wrote:
lozz wrote:they rekon remap is 142 top whack on a 110,


one here on the y tube

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3Yp3iJsGHk

there quick enough for me 8)
i reckon that car hits 60 (100kph) in about under 11 seconds, the 2.2 hdi does it in that.

but another difference between the two engines is the 90bhp doesnt have a dual mass flywheel i believe.
idont know what speed thats doing in the vid tbh,
idont have a camera or id upload a vid on the tube but that might not be a good idea incase any plod view the tube,
theres another video on the tube somewhere showing what a fully maped 110 can do but icarnt find it, :(

ive took mine upto 122 and called it a day at that the 406 can become abit twitchy

Re: 90 v's 110 bhp HDI

Posted: Wed May 11, 2011 10:26 pm
by FarmerPug
the most common remap number is 136 for these eco tunes, id like one of them.
The 110 is enough but could do with slightly more just for overtaking.

Re: 90 v's 110 bhp HDI

Posted: Wed May 11, 2011 10:37 pm
by lozz
FarmerPug wrote:the most common remap number is 136 for these eco tunes, id like one of them.
The 110 is enough but could do with slightly more just for overtaking.
its not just the overtaking its better for its the steep hills,
get it fully mapped and watch it fly up hills 8)

Re: 90 v's 110 bhp HDI

Posted: Thu May 12, 2011 6:18 am
by steve_earwig
The 90 doesn't have a DMF and it's a different 'box - a BE rather than an ML.

The Semen's doesn't have a lift pump or (as far as I can recall) a cat. The downside is the Semens can't be remapped (unless things have changed since this last came up)