Need a new clutch

[benczuk]

My clutch has started to slip when i give it a boot of power, (revs climb quickly but with no noticeable increase of speed)

I also have a very juddery take off from standstill which i assume is the DMF?

Does anyone know if the 2.2 clutch is different to the 2.0 DMF clutch kits on fleabay? 2.2 kits seem to be pretty rare.

Also if my DMF is dead do I go for Solid or a new DMF? (or just bin the car as it will cost ~£650 ( )

all and any thoughts welcome

[Doggy]

2.2's are bigger.
A clutch kit will cost you around £100, DMF prices vary from £200 - £300 depending on luck, timing and how hard you search.
Also budget something like £30/40 for drive shaft oil seals and refilling the gearbox.
I don't think there's a significant saving to be made by replacing with a solid flywheel conversion, I personnally wouldn't risk it.
Fitting? DIY's obviously cheapest, but not easy. 'box has to come out, but this can be done by only dropping one side of the subframe.

BTW, fitting a 6-speed while you're at it is worth the extra, IMHO

[oldskoolskool]

I've just fitted a smf and paddle clutch on my hdi coupé, with this combination you can feel more vibrations through the clutch pedal when changing gears, plus being a paddle clutch the point from where it begins to bit to being fully engaged is close.

Gear changes aren't as smooth as oem kit but I have adjusted to it and prefer it now. (most people wouldn't like).

As for cost I paid £490 for the smf, 6 paddle clutch with uprated pressure plate and release bearing. And found a local garage the fitted for £270 (out of hour, was looking at aroung £450 - £500 to do it through the books).

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[benczuk]

Ta all.

dont suppose there is a guide / pics somewhere for how to do it only dropping one side? AutoData shows 9 hours with the engine completely dropped

[benczuk]

Also,

how do you know if the DMF is dead when you finally get it out?

[Doggy]

I think you're only supposed to be able to move one part relative to the other by 15 degrees max, also the bit the clutch plate bears on shouldn't rock from side to side when pressed. I wound up changing mine at not much over 100k, since the 'box was out anyway. It was technically OK, but would you want to revisit it in the near future?

Nearest thing to a guide is probably MJB's v6 clutch howto in the KB

[benczuk]

I'm probably only going to have this car for another 2 years tops. And having just spent 300 on the engine, another 200 on tyres, a 750 parts and labor bill for a clutch I wont get all my use out of is scary...

do you still have the "technically ok" DMF?

[Doggy]

do you still have the "technically ok" DMF?

Sorry, knew I'd never use it and didn't imagine anyone else would....

What happened to your engine?

[benczuk]

fair enough.

by engine I mean the head rebuild for the snapped timing belt

[Doggy]

Ouch! I did the cambelt about 20k early on my last one, thinking that if you're definitely going to have to do it, and very unlikely to do it twice, it makes sense to do it sooner rather than later.

Must seriously think about applying that impeccable logic to this one.

[benczuk]

After spending two days considering alternatives (in the form of a Honda Accord Tourer), I have decided to throw yet more money at the 406

Clutch kit obtained... looking at used DMF on ebay and wondering if it is worth risking the £140 saving on having to take it all to bits again in a few months time...

[Captain Jack]

Good decision against the Honda. Clutches on them are made of cheese along with the rest of the car..... Also don't buy a used DMF ...it's almost like buying a used clutch. A new one will be more expensive but it will also buy you a piece of mind.

[Doggy]

Also bear in mind you can only install the release bearing once, (freely admit I'm not sure), but I think that means another clutch kit if you have to subsequently change the DMF

[benczuk]

Finally got my car back yesterday after new clutch, DMF and ~£650

Lovely to have it back but what I wasn't expecting is how light the clutch pedal now is. I had sort of accepted that a heavy clutch, like a crap handbrake is part of the 406 experience. seems it isn't!

[Doggy]

Good to hear you've got it sorted.
2.2 clutches are schizophrenic, give an initial impression of lightness, but drive it in stop-start traffic for half an hour and your leg muscles know about it.

It is possible to 'win' with the handbrake, mine were both troublesome but I triumphed in the end.