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Another starting trouble thread

Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2013 2:29 am
by dave406
Ok so typical post about cold starting been fine all summer now its getting cold it takes an ages to start

Had a free battery check done 95% health and the alternator is putting out 14+V. Ones its been started for the day its fine. It takes a good 10 seconds to start and sometimes it will 'catch' and if you release the key it stalls so you have to hold the key for a split second more. Another this the first 1-2 secods it sound like its miss firing.

Glow plugs? injectors?

Re: Another starting trouble thread

Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2013 9:09 am
by Doggy
Been thinking about this, the possibilities include:
Lack of fuel, (lift pump or injectors)
Lack of compression, (low cranking speed or engine wear)
Intermittent operation of crank or cam sensors.
Glow plugs might affect it a bit, but if you can normally fire it up before they've had a chance to do anything, you don't need them.

It does sound similar to Captain Jack's recent injector problem, therefore I recommend:

Check the lift pump works every time.
If you can get it diagnosed cheaply, do that next.
Do a leak-off test.

Re: Another starting trouble thread

Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2013 9:25 am
by Captain Jack
Chris, feel free to make use of my PP2000. Yes, do a leak of test first - I can help with that if you want as well.

Re: Another starting trouble thread

Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2013 1:55 pm
by dave406
Caption Jack that would smashing when would be best for you?

Re: Another starting trouble thread

Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2013 2:18 pm
by Captain Jack
Chris, today is fine if you can get over to me.

Re: Another starting trouble thread

Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2013 5:40 pm
by dave406
turns out sam,e issue as ///cj's old 406

Re: Another starting trouble thread

Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2013 6:04 pm
by Captain Jack
Fingers crossed a new injector is all you need

Re: Another starting trouble thread

Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2013 6:23 pm
by dave406
We're DoD you get,the washers.from Alex

Re: Another starting trouble thread

Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2013 7:01 pm
by dave406
Injectors and seals ordered ow we wait

Re: Another starting trouble thread

Posted: Mon Dec 09, 2013 12:12 pm
by dave406
Fingers crossed its fixed :supafrisk:

Re: Another starting trouble thread

Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 10:35 am
by 406owner2
I take it from your last reply the problem has gone away ?

I also have a starting problem on my 406 1996 petrol, but only in the mornings when it's cold, however my car is petrol not diesel, could the same apply for me ?

Re: Another starting trouble thread

Posted: Fri Jan 10, 2014 12:19 pm
by dave406
Mine was an injector

Re: Another starting trouble thread

Posted: Sat Jan 11, 2014 10:25 am
by steve_earwig
406owner2 wrote:I take it from your last reply the problem has gone away ?

I also have a starting problem on my 406 1996 petrol, but only in the mornings when it's cold, however my car is petrol not diesel, could the same apply for me ?
I'm reading that as a yes, can you get your injectors tested/cleaned where you are (without sacrificing a kidney that is...)

Re: Another starting trouble thread

Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 11:35 pm
by ZilogJones
I've been having the same trouble with cold starts since I got my 406. I've already wasted money on glow plugs, getting the starter motor reconditioned, then I forget for 9 months until it's winter again :)

Will a PP2000 be able to give me any useful hints towards injectors if one of them is dodge? Or should I do a leakoff test? And did you get them reconditioned or replaced? How much did it set you back?
I've got a Siemens HDi, so no lift pump, right?

Re: Another starting trouble thread

Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2014 5:17 pm
by dave406
Mines still having. Trouble