Sorry it's not 406 related but we allow Volvos here, so why not Suzuki
Anyway, my wife's Swift (2009, 1.5L petrol) has some odd issues with idling and cutting out. It seems to idle at 400-500 rpm and feels very lumpy. Often when changing gear, or doing anything that would allow an engine to get to idle, the engine simply cuts out. It can be restarted straight away without issues.
Strangely, it started doing it badly after a battery change but putting the old battery in did not help.
Er.. I know almost nothing about these engines and petrols in general but happy to poke around. There's a lot more space in the engine bay than in my 407! Could I have knocked something on battery change or just a weird coincidence? Could it be an idle control valve sticking - if it has those...?
Ta.
Suzuki Swift 1.5 idling issues
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Suzuki Swift 1.5 idling issues
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Re: Suzuki Swift 1.5 idling issues
Have been reading that battery replacement can indeed cause these issues and it has to "relearn"?
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Re: Suzuki Swift 1.5 idling issues
If I disconnect the battery in the yoyo it does something similar, although it doesn't cut out it idles at around 600. It takes a while to re-adapt, or a thrash down the motorway.
I think it actually means the throttle body needs cleaning. Oh dear.
I think it actually means the throttle body needs cleaning. Oh dear.
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Re: Suzuki Swift 1.5 idling issues
Clean of throttle body by the sounds of it, it gets used to the throttle position and adapts to it....until the battery change when it goes "oh sh*t"...
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Re: Suzuki Swift 1.5 idling issues
Thanks chaps. Did another "reset" today and sent the wife off for a drive - we'll see if she comes back in one piece.
I had a look around and the throttle body can be removed relatively easily. Annoyingly I would need to drain the coolant if I was to replace it. It looked clean*... Couldn't find the idle control valve though.
I had a look around and the throttle body can be removed relatively easily. Annoyingly I would need to drain the coolant if I was to replace it. It looked clean*... Couldn't find the idle control valve though.
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Re: Suzuki Swift 1.5 idling issues
Youtube is your friend I'd guess. Hopefully if it settles down itself leave it well alone.....fiddling with stuff always leads to trouble [/T-shirt]
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Re: Suzuki Swift 1.5 idling issues
Similarly I was thinking about cleaning the yoyo's, until I saw a warning on a ewetoob vid that said you could scrap it if you do it wrong or use the wrong cleaner, so I decided to leave well enough alone. If it aint actually broke...
Won't the throttle body be motorised? I doubt it has one of those pesky Bowden cables with the driver's foot at the other end of it
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Re: Suzuki Swift 1.5 idling issues
Yeah, fly by wire this one, so a motorised throttle body here.
SWMBO is back. Seems to be better - occasionally drops to below 600rpm causing a judder but no stalls.
Hopefully it will get better as time goes on.
SWMBO is back. Seems to be better - occasionally drops to below 600rpm causing a judder but no stalls.
Hopefully it will get better as time goes on.
2003 - 2008: 1998 Peugeot 406 2.1 TD 110bhp LX Saloon
2008 - 2009: 2004 Honda Accord 2.2 CDTI 136bhp Executive Saloon
2009 - 2013: 2002 Peugeot 406 2.0 HDI 110bhp Executive Saloon
2013 - 2021: 2007 Peugeot 407 2.2 HDI 170bhp Executive Saloon (mapped to 213bhp )
2021 - ????: 2016 Ford Mondeo 2.0 TDCi 180bhp Titanium
2008 - 2009: 2004 Honda Accord 2.2 CDTI 136bhp Executive Saloon
2009 - 2013: 2002 Peugeot 406 2.0 HDI 110bhp Executive Saloon
2013 - 2021: 2007 Peugeot 407 2.2 HDI 170bhp Executive Saloon (mapped to 213bhp )
2021 - ????: 2016 Ford Mondeo 2.0 TDCi 180bhp Titanium