Oops, my dad's been over here for a week and I've missed loads. He's 75 but you wouldn't believe it, he's worn me out! At least we've got plenty done, my bro and his family are over here in a couple of weeks and I'll have to drop everything and become a tour guide
Sooo...
KetsOne wrote:Oh yeah!
My D9 is running smoothly on LPG for four years now.
Didn´t have one single problem with it.
The LPG system is from Vialle (Dutch manufacturer) and is of the liquid injection type.
Meaning that the fuel is injected into the cylinders as a liquid. My peug has the same performance on LPG as it has on petrol.
I'm told the cost of a conversion is getting on for 2,000 pounds in the UK and I don't think there are that many gas stations selling the stuff, so there's not many converted cars about. It's about half that over here (less in Bosnia, so I'm told, but the system must be fitted by an approved garage with certificates etc so there's no going to there to get it done, the bastards
) and stations selling the stuff are all over the place. I'm still kicking myself for not taking the plunge by buying a petrol car and getting it converted. "Why go through all the agro?" I said to myself, then the price of diesel went mental
Still, if I had done then the price of lpg would have gone stupid, Sod's Law innit.
I read cars drop a little consumption running lpg (5%?) but not necessarily performance, this still would make it less than half the price of petrol or diesel (just over half price in the UK)
Sticking a few figures into a few of the many calculators ('cos I'm a lazy b'stard
), 10,000 miles per annum, 30 mpg, an lpg conversion in the UK should pay for itself in about three years. Increase that to 30,000 miles per annum and it'll only take a year!
Over here, at 10,000 miles per annum it would only take just over a year (bangs head against wall) Stupid, stupid...
And this doesn't take into account all the potential problems with the plethora of temperamental emission control systems on modern diesel engines (how much is a new fap??)
mjb wrote:My tubby was fitted with an LPG conversion, but it got taken out prior to my purchase for some reason
Probably because they got more money by selling it and the car separately.
Actually, I see loads of conversion places saying they can't do turbocharged cars, while others don't say anything, making me assume they don't want to mention their shortcomings but maybe I can get that turbo Forrester after all... I suppose it depends on the type of conversion so a bit of research before hand might be a good idea.
"But I'll loose all my load space!" I hear you cry. Actually, a neighbour of mine has the biggest tank he could find in a Renault 5 and hasn't got
any space. But he uses the car for commuting and goes months without needing to fill up! There's always the torodail tank that goes in place of the spare, my 406's tyres are 205/60 15, which gives a space of 648mm x 205mm, big enough for a 40-50 litre tank. All you need is a tin of that tyre foam but I always wonder what the look on the tyre repairer's face will be when you tell him the tyre's filled with foam... I've also seen conversions where they fit a smaller petrol tank and a gas cylinder along side it, that'll be even more expensive. I guess risking the wrath of the Quick Fit man is a small price to pay for cheating the chancellor.
Incidently, they do a verticle toroidal tank to fit the spare wheel holders they have on the back doors of most 4x4s, which kind of makes you wonder what happens if someone drives into the back of you. However I do read that these toroidal tanks are pretty indestructable, they can even blow dents out of them using a few (hundred!) bars of compressed air.
Oh crap, I better go and do something useful.
Any thoughts?
