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There seems to be a broken suspension theme going on here.. Went out to wash my car today and noticed this:

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Hmmm, I have NO idea how I managed to drive it home, unless it broke as soon as I got there. So I decided to pull back a bit... *BANG*

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Meh... Gotta find a garage to take it to to have it repaired and sell the bugger. I do a lot of miles (600 a week) and really need something newer as I don't want to end up in a ditch.

So any suggestions for a new car are more than welcome :)
2003 - 2008: 1998 Peugeot 406 2.1 TD 110bhp LX Saloon
2008 - 2009: 2004 Honda Accord 2.2 CDTI 136bhp Executive Saloon
2009 - 2013: 2002 Peugeot 406 2.0 HDI 110bhp Executive Saloon
2013 - 2021: 2007 Peugeot 407 2.2 HDI 170bhp Executive Saloon (mapped to 213bhp :twisted:)
2021 - ????: 2016 Ford Mondeo 2.0 TDCi 180bhp Titanium
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just replace both shocks and springs, keep changing the oil and filter, and it will keep on going
Peugeot wrote:what are you worried about? we made car that lasted 10 years"..."Zat is very goode non? :|
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Yeah but just wondering what else can go wrong. It's on 145k now, with original clutch which will probably go soon...
2003 - 2008: 1998 Peugeot 406 2.1 TD 110bhp LX Saloon
2008 - 2009: 2004 Honda Accord 2.2 CDTI 136bhp Executive Saloon
2009 - 2013: 2002 Peugeot 406 2.0 HDI 110bhp Executive Saloon
2013 - 2021: 2007 Peugeot 407 2.2 HDI 170bhp Executive Saloon (mapped to 213bhp :twisted:)
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my D8 1.9td had 190k and was on the original clutch, and anyway, how much is a clutch £80, about £300 to fit, not that expensive,
Peugeot wrote:what are you worried about? we made car that lasted 10 years"..."Zat is very goode non? :|
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I agree with James.
Try find a decent car, capable of 600 miles a week, 52 weeks a year and do so in comfort for £400 or less.

You won't find any.
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Blimey CJ! :shock:
I'd do as James says, replace the springs and keep it going! Especially after all the work you've put into it!
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I do love my little car... And I am thinking after fixing the struts and anti-roll bars to stop the knocks, it would be as good as new.

But... I still can't help thinking what will fall off next. And I always wanted a coupe and they are relatively cheap now so I am wondering whether to just go for that. Of course, I will repair it now and then maybe a few months down the line.....
2003 - 2008: 1998 Peugeot 406 2.1 TD 110bhp LX Saloon
2008 - 2009: 2004 Honda Accord 2.2 CDTI 136bhp Executive Saloon
2009 - 2013: 2002 Peugeot 406 2.0 HDI 110bhp Executive Saloon
2013 - 2021: 2007 Peugeot 407 2.2 HDI 170bhp Executive Saloon (mapped to 213bhp :twisted:)
2021 - ????: 2016 Ford Mondeo 2.0 TDCi 180bhp Titanium
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I'm starting to get rather worried driving mine now :shock: But as Hionest John said, it always seems to be when the cyar's moving about slowly (or indeed, parked up for the night)

So, how much is your car worth CJ? If you flogged it how much would you get and what would you replace it with? A car you know nothing about and that might need expesive work doing too? I'm guessing the value of your car to be almost nothing and the longer you take driving it into the ground the later the new car you can replace it with. I can't think of much else dangerous that could go wrong either, I presume you have a fairly good idea of what sort of condition your brakes (or is that breaks now?) are in and you'll have new road springs too. Just wait for the pump to go bang and bin it!
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Captain Jack wrote:But... I still can't help thinking what will fall off next.
I had the same dilemma when my tubby failed its MOT. I reckoned I could spend £600 on work that needed doing (inc. seriously overdue cambelt change), or £600 on a V6 someone was selling on here. In the end I took a gamble which (touch wood) seems to have paid off, but the thing to remember is you need to be acutely aware that you could be buying a lemon. There's plenty of potential faults which could easily write a car off and there's plenty of people out there that would happily take your money for a car they know has such a fault.

If the V6 had been an extra £100/year for me to insure (given I pay around £600/year anyway :shock: ), if I still worked in Manchester, or if the moon had been in a slightly different position, I'd have probably kept the tubby. Better the devil you know!
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steve_earwig wrote:So, how much is your car worth CJ? If you flogged it how much would you get and what would you replace it with?
About 10p. Nah, dunno... 500-600 quid I would guess?

I was looking at everything from Peugeots all the way to Jags and BMWs, but I think the most sensible option for me is to get a Ford Mundane :? I have around 6k to spend + the cost of my '6. And leather seats would be an absolute bonus. A 406 coop is tempting as well, but with the amount of stuff going wrong with it is really putting me off :cry:
steve_earwig wrote:A car you know nothing about and that might need expesive work doing too? I'm guessing the value of your car to be almost nothing and the longer you take driving it into the ground the later the new car you can replace it with. I can't think of much else dangerous that could go wrong either, I presume you have a fairly good idea of what sort of condition your brakes (or is that breaks now?) are in and you'll have new road springs too. Just wait for the pump to go bang and bin it!
The front brakes and disks were replaced last year 15k miles ago. I have an advisory on my MOT that the rear disks are warped and drop links are loose (getting that sorted along with suspension). Various rattles and other little niggles are rather offputting, so we'll see....

Here's my baby getting towed away:

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And here's my 3-day courtesy thing:


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Not sure what engine is in there, the blokey at Enterprise said it was 1.4 but it says i-VTEC on the back, which would suggest a 1.8. Love the inside of it but an absolutely sh*te sound system and could really do with the familiar diesel torque....
2003 - 2008: 1998 Peugeot 406 2.1 TD 110bhp LX Saloon
2008 - 2009: 2004 Honda Accord 2.2 CDTI 136bhp Executive Saloon
2009 - 2013: 2002 Peugeot 406 2.0 HDI 110bhp Executive Saloon
2013 - 2021: 2007 Peugeot 407 2.2 HDI 170bhp Executive Saloon (mapped to 213bhp :twisted:)
2021 - ????: 2016 Ford Mondeo 2.0 TDCi 180bhp Titanium
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Each time I buy a new car it costs an additional £1000 to put it where it should be even though it may have a spanking new MOT and full service history, AND I always spend a good hour looking around for faults :evil:
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muffindell wrote:Each time I buy a new car it costs an additional £1000 to put it where it should be even though it may have a spanking new MOT and full service history, AND I always spend a good hour looking around for faults :evil:
I sympathise, I've spent £500 sorting mine out :cry:
New radiator, new dip stick (!!), new anti-rollbar bushes front and rear, new drop links front and rear, new top links on the rear, new rear discs, pads and handbrake shoes, 3 new tyres, exhaust mount repair, top engine mount rescued from my LX before the insurance company took it :lol:
Still got cam belt & aux belt to replace & water pump, also oil leak to find and cure. Also I guess the springs too :cry:
1996 406 1.8LX Got a bad case of hydro lock!
1996 406 Executive 2.0 Turbo XU10J2TE No longer hangin' on in there :(
1997 Honda CB500V
2003 Volvo V40 1.8 GDi SE killed by a nutter in a beemer 5 series
2008 Mondeo 2.0 TDCi Titanium X

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Lol, yeah talkes me back to my first 406 1.9td, just asked the dealer who does all my work to check it over, do anything that needed to be done and service it. One week later I collected it along with a nice invoice for new clutch,front discs and pads, rear wheel cylinder, 4 re-conditioned injectors, 4 new tyres and a full service :( That car went on to be a little money pit, with a new cam belt change ending up with all new tensioners, water pump and a knackered crankshaft key-way (which they had to build up with a chemical metal), a few weeks later on last day of annual holiday a mindless person keyed every panel :(( The trauma continued with dash bulbs blowing, rear brake lights blowing, the exhaust blowing, drop links clonking, front bumper cracking, a mindless car park swipe down the front door giving it a bow in the wrong direction. the nail in the coffin was when the key-way crankshaft fix gave up again - time to polish and get rid :oops:

Still liked the car though and went on to buy a phase 2 :cheesy: Bottom pully, headlights misting, exhaust dropping off, injector rattle under 3,000rpm, drop links, rear cylinders leaking, front calliper seizing, warped disks, CD player not playing, A/C condenser leaking, steering not running true, rear tyre wear on insides, climate control panel info blanking, rusting arches, battery dead, ball joints banging, cat. convertor hole in one, fuel gauge mind of it's own.

It went well and I enjoyed driving the car but baby forces trade in for 407sw. So far in 6 weeks, two new tyres, de-pollution fault, EGR valve failed, rear wiper spindle seized solid, rear calliper seized, new rear pads; under engine tray fell off, so it looks like Peugeot have improved their Quality Control over the last 10 years :lol:
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Oh gawd muffindell! Talk about cars with problems!
Congrats on the baby by the way! I had to get rid of my pride and joy Saab 900 convertible when our second son was born, just not enough room for baby clobber :cry:
Still, I'm happy with the 406, especially the exec with it's aircon now a bit of summer has arrived!!
1996 406 1.8LX Got a bad case of hydro lock!
1996 406 Executive 2.0 Turbo XU10J2TE No longer hangin' on in there :(
1997 Honda CB500V
2003 Volvo V40 1.8 GDi SE killed by a nutter in a beemer 5 series
2008 Mondeo 2.0 TDCi Titanium X

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Don't get me wrong, the 406 is a great car, and I do drive around 25-30k per year so things happen more often because of this. I've been running Peugeots for about 20years now, so they can't be bad :cheesy: I've had cars (new and used)made by other manufactures and they've all had their problems and none are much cheaper than the other to repair! One thing that I have learnt, Peugeot DO make the best diesel engine, they do make cars that handle well; it's a shame some of the other bits and pieces aren't as well engineered but then again thinking about it, it's the other bits and pieces that fail - Bosch injection and braking systems, Lucus brakes, Bosch headlights, Seimens ecu's, Valeo starting and charging, rear lights; the list goes on. In fact the things MADE by Peugeot actually don't often fail, is there a story in this?
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