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406 Suspension!

Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 2:39 am
by STALLED
Hey,

I'm currently in the process of getting the parts ready to refresh the rear end of the 406. The car has done 160,000km and things are getting a tad tired back there - Bit of a clunk and a knock when going over bumps. So far I have bought a set of anti roll bar links but I was wanting to know what else I should replace whilst I have the rear wheels off the car?

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Is there another bush which you have to purchase to match these - I can't quite work it out from the manual I have and I don't have access right now to a Haynes? I'm also assuming that I need the link rods - How many do I need...my mate who is a mechanic said he would help me do the work if I bought the parts - I'm assuming it's just the two?

What about any other individual bushes?

Thanks heaps 406oc'ers!

Joel (The Aussie)

Re: 406 Suspension!

Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 7:22 am
by steve_earwig
STALLED wrote:Joel (The Aussie)
Are you thinking we forgot you? :(

I think the usual one is this rear suspension track arm (517839?) but, unless you want to replace the whole lot ($$$) you should really have a look round under there.

As for Haynes (Book of Lies), I can get stuff from Amazon here so I'd think you can too.

Re: 406 Suspension!

Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 8:18 am
by djp30djp
Don't forget it will need four wheel alighnment too :oops:

Re: 406 Suspension!

Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 8:33 am
by Welly
I think the main culprit is the anti roll bar mounting bushes! replacement requires the fuel tank to be lowered to get to the off side one (where the filler neck is).

This is what's wrong with mine but it passed the MOT like it. Annoying noise though as the bush is one of those hard ones and crashes over bumps in the road.

Re: 406 Suspension!

Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 9:11 am
by teamster1975
As Welly says the antirollbar bushes are the main problem; you should change the top links while you're at it too which will require rear wheel alignment afterwards.
If you can get enough access have a look at the condition of the rubbers on top of the suspension springs; while I was getting my wheel alignment done the guy pointed out that they were pretty badly perished; not a bad job to do, compress the springs and you can swap them over.

Re: 406 Suspension!

Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 3:44 pm
by mjb
anyone got some pictures for those of us that know squat about suspension?

Re: 406 Suspension!

Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 8:14 pm
by teamster1975
mjb wrote:anyone got some pictures for those of us that know squat about suspension?
No... But I've got to change the handbrake cable at the weekend so I'll take some pics while I've got the wheel off :)

Re: 406 Suspension!

Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 12:56 am
by STALLED
teamster1975 wrote:
mjb wrote:anyone got some pictures for those of us that know squat about suspension?
No... But I've got to change the handbrake cable at the weekend so I'll take some pics while I've got the wheel off :)
That would be great - Thanks so much!

Anyone know how many hours are required to do the work - Just trying to minimize costs! Spent too much bloody money on this car already and it's only not even February!

Re: 406 Suspension!

Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 11:47 am
by teamster1975
STALLED wrote:Anyone know how many hours are required to do the work - Just trying to minimize costs! Spent too much bloody money on this car already and it's only not even February!
Give yourself 4-5 hours allowing for seized bolts and skinned knuckles :) (And tea and fag breaks! :cheesy: )
It's not a terribly difficult job, just fiddly! I had trouble getting the bottom nut off the drop links and ended up stripping quite a bit down to get to it. You will need spring compressors!
I'll post the photos tomorrow evening once I've finished on the car :)

Re: 406 Suspension!

Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2009 12:31 am
by STALLED
teamster1975 wrote:
STALLED wrote:Anyone know how many hours are required to do the work - Just trying to minimize costs! Spent too much bloody money on this car already and it's only not even February!
Give yourself 4-5 hours allowing for seized bolts and skinned knuckles :) (And tea and fag breaks! :cheesy: )
It's not a terribly difficult job, just fiddly! I had trouble getting the bottom nut off the drop links and ended up stripping quite a bit down to get to it. You will need spring compressors!
I'll post the photos tomorrow evening once I've finished on the car :)
Thanks matey! I don't know if things will be seized because we don't salt our roads or have the rust problems you guys do. It's pretty common here to have a classic car which is mechanically pharrrrrked but have the most awesome rust free body - Think old Citroens etc

Re: 406 Suspension!

Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2009 9:53 am
by Doggy
teamster1975 wrote::) (And tea and fag breaks! :cheesy: )
Teamy - Not sure about OZ, but this wouldn't go down well in the US of A :oops:

Re: 406 Suspension!

Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 10:08 pm
by teamster1975
Right; these are the pics I took on Saturday when I was pissing about with the handbrake cables (which are completely rotten :frown: )
The last photo is irrelevant but at least I've got a photo of my car on here now :lol:

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Re: 406 Suspension!

Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 10:30 pm
by steve_earwig
Blimey Teamy, there's either something wrong with your camera or...

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Re: 406 Suspension!

Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 10:34 pm
by teamster1975
steve_earwig wrote:Blimey Teamy, there's either something wrong with your camera or...
Pants camera on my phone with no flash; I was lighting it up with an led work lamp :oops:

Re: 406 Suspension!

Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 11:20 pm
by STALLED
Thanks teamy! Much appreciated matey!

Can I put them up on Aussiefrogs - that being the Aussie french car nutters forum (www.aussiefrogs.com) because some of them want to do the suspension work as well...Full credit will be given :)

Regards,

Joel