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hi,

ive got a 1991 D9 2.0 GLX EW10J4 with 59,000 on the clock and no service history, so i've got all the usual stuff on the way plugs, oil and air filter so that i know its been done but what are the other things i should be looking out for and when? i.e. cambelt? etc?

also once ive done this initial basic service what sort of schedule should i be looking to keep as id like to see it make the 100,000's so any other advice on how to achieve a happy pug will be welcome


dan

I would do a full brake check and a fluid change.Check all the steering joints and driveshaft rubber boots, look at your front coil springs where they mount onto the struts and check for corrosion.

As for the timing belt, the replacement interval is listed as 72,000 miles or 5 years, I would change that now.

I would also replace the alternator belt and have a good look at the belt tensioner and pulley.

ugh, brake bleeding..... now there's a job i hate, whats best just to get some dot5 in there?

phoning round now to get some prices on the cam belt as i reckon thats well well well out of my range of knowledge - any seasoned 406 enthusiasts/mechanics in the surrey area? paid of course

then the usual basic stuff again in 9months?

dan

I use Dot 4 synthetic for brake fluid changes, just done one this afternoon on a Golf TDi.

I would do A big service now, as you seem to be organising, then, just before the winter, I would do an oil and filter change, anti-freeze and hose check, general look round, then spring 2010, I would do another major service.

Servicing depends on your mileage,if you do more miles, service in 10,000 miles, less miles, service at 9 /12 month intervals.

got it booked into peugeot for cambelt at £300, they also want an extra £50 for the tensioners and £110 for the water pump.... hmmmm £460


dan

Flippin 'eck Dan, I seriously need to review my prices, that is expensive.

my local guy said he'd do the cam belt for £220 but figured for £80 might aswell just get pug to do it, if thats the price i guess thats what its going to cost

dan

averagejo wrote:my local guy said he'd do the cam belt for £220 but figured for £80 might aswell just get pug to do it, if thats the price i guess thats what its going to cost

Don't put too much faith in the dealers If you trust the local guy to do a good job, I'd go with him

jasper5 wrote:I would also replace the alternator belt

Would anyone really consider doing a cambelt change without coughing up a few quid to do the aux belt given it's coming off anyway?

I'm afraid they do.

Some customers try to get stuff done as cheaply as possible, it's their money, so you have to do what they want.

I always try to tell them about cost effective etc, but sometimes they don't listen.

You would be amazed at the things I get asked to do.

oil changes with no new filter?

jasper5 wrote:You would be amazed at the things I get asked to do.

Oo-err mrs...

My mate in the car spares shop has a thousand similar tales. I guess people think you're just trying to get some extra money out of them

I quite enjoyed this one - a guy came in a month ago and asked how much a cam belt change was, got told 1500Kn (180 quid) and said it was too much. A month later he's quite pleased about the 3,500Kn it cost to repair his engine after the cam belt snapped

steve_earwig wrote:

jasper5 wrote:You would be amazed at the things I get asked to do.

Oo-err mrs...

atleast someone said something i was trying so hard to bite my tongue

nice place croatia, spent 2 weeks traveling round there last year but back onto subject....

mjb wrote:If you trust the local guy to do a good job, I'd go with him

i do trust the local guy, but going with the dealer for the ability to finger point *if* something came up..... plus he said that he's never done one on a 406 and was a bit


dan

300 quid? How much is a friggin' cam belt? Even if they are about £100 (can't be, can they?)*, and labour is,what, £50/h, does it really take 4 hours to do the job?


*Just looked on flea bay, and a genuine 406 2.1 'cam belt timing kit' is around £40-50. I'm amazed. Is labour that expensive now?

averagejo wrote:

steve_earwig wrote:

jasper5 wrote:You would be amazed at the things I get asked to do.

Oo-err mrs...

atleast someone said something i was trying so hard to bite my tongue

Can't believe I missed that one

i do trust the local guy, but going with the dealer for the ability to finger point *if* something came up..... plus he said that he's never done one on a 406 and was a bit

Finger point what exactly? A new ECU, BSI and wiring loom when he knocks the plug off the TDC sensor? Dealers seem to make all their money from random replacement of components instead of actually troubleshooting faults. Dealers have no incentive to bother diagnosing the right part, whereas independents have to pay for the parts, and store your car while they're waiting, and (decent ones) foot the bill themselves if they screw up

A mechanic not having done a 406 cambelt is a bit like someone not having used a Stanley brand screwdriver... Would you refuse to let them use yours because they hadn't used one of that specific brand before? Bit of an extreme example, but there's nothing really specific to PSA engines