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fuel solenoid ???
Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 9:36 pm
by amron
Fuel has been contaminated with the additive have cleaned out tank, pipes, new fuel filter and injectors as they were all gunged up. Car still not starting, think it is a solenoid, made a blanking plate to try and fuel is running to injectors, just need to know is it the fuel cut off solenoid, its in the engine bay left hand side goes onto injection on hp pump, its at the end of the engine

(clear as mud

) I tried peugeot, they said it was the pressure regulator £300

Cant check it out on service box

thanks guys
cheers
Norma
2.2 hdi 136bhp
Re: fuel solenoid ???
Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 9:49 pm
by Doggy
Pretty sure mine doesn't have a fuel shut-off valve - I think it's only petrol cars that have them.
Re: fuel solenoid ???
Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 10:00 pm
by amron
Will take a picture tomorrow, trying to remember from yesterday and left the Haynes in the car

Re: fuel solenoid ???
Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2009 3:54 am
by djp30djp
amron wrote: think it is a solenoid, made a blanking plate to try and fuel is running to injectors,
If fuel is getting to the injectors then the fault must surely be either lack of pressure or the injectors not opening?
If it was a solenoid, no fuel woud reach the injectors?
Re: fuel solenoid ???
Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2009 7:46 am
by amron
Without the blanking plate no fuel is getting to the injectors,

just trying to source the right part, dont want to buy a part at £300 if its not that....checked through my receipts since getting this car and have spent over £2000 so money is a bit tight, and still got this bill to pay

This is the 1st car with this fap system that my 2 local garages have come across

so Im trying to gather as much info on it as I can...so I really appreciated any comments etc to guide me in the right direction....Will go to garage after work get photo.. hope that might help
Cheers
Norma
Re: fuel solenoid ???
Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2009 1:02 pm
by Doggy
Not sure what part you're describing there. It could be:
1. Fuel pressure sensor, (located on pipework between HP pump & injectors)
2. Fuel temperature sensor, (located on pipework between HP pump & injectors)
(The 2.2's 'common rail' is kinda buried behind the fuel filter etc. due to the 16V head design - you can see some of this on the pics I posted on nutski's wiki thread).
3. Bosch HP pumps have an integral solenoid to enable/disable the 3rd piston & thus regulate fuel pressure under ECU control.
Do you think it's one of these?
Re: fuel solenoid ???
Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2009 1:03 pm
by Doggy
Not sure what part you're describing there. It could be:
1. Fuel pressure sensor, (located on pipework between HP pump & injectors)
2. Fuel temperature sensor, (located on pipework between HP pump & injectors)
(The 2.2's 'common rail' is kinda buried behind the fuel filter etc. due to the 16V head design - you can see some of this on the pics I posted on
nutski's wiki thread).
3. Bosch HP pumps have an integral solenoid to enable/disable the 3rd piston & thus regulate fuel pressure under ECU control.
Do you think it's one of these?
Re: fuel solenoid ???
Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2009 2:30 pm
by amron
Thanks dogslife I couldnt make out part will look again now that I have seen the part ... went to garage and took photos
info on part is CR/DRV/F/W/10S...........0281002493........18508... can anyone confirm which part it is...Ta
put up photo of the fuel filter as well from last week.......
Cheers guys
Norma
Re: fuel solenoid ???
Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2009 3:10 pm
by djp30djp
That looks like the fuel pressure sensor, but I don't like the look of whats in the filter bowl, is it some kind of bio-diesel?
Whatever it is it's probably not done the pump any good.
Re: fuel solenoid ???
Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2009 4:05 pm
by amron
djp30djp wrote:That looks like the fuel pressure sensor, but I don't like the look of whats in the filter bowl, is it some kind of bio-diesel?
Whatever it is it's probably not done the pump any good.
Thats the fuel additive Eloys that has empited into the fuel system again.....

on Peugeot planet it was showing the faults fuel filler cap sensor and additive minimum level reached ... replaced sensor and then was showing fuel cap open.... magnets etc been checked Then car wouldnt start
whole system has been drained and injectors etc were all gunged up.... I have taken samples and have written back to garage and Head office as this should not been happening....its regrettable and very uncommon to have any issues with the fap system... where have they been hiding

They also said garage would heavily discount me on any repairs but last time this happened (Oct/Nov)they said it was the starter motor

.... so more letters in the post....was advised to go a run down the motorway but 6 hour round trip to get to the nearest .... M8 going into Glasgow....
cheers
Norma
Re: fuel solenoid ???
Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2009 4:46 pm
by steve_earwig
amron wrote:its regrettable and very uncommon to have any issues with the fap system... where have they been hiding
Maybe they mean in a "no issues to us, bringing cash in by the wheel barrow" way
You know, that doesn't look like a pressure sensor to me - looks more like the injection pump electro valve:
0000193338 REGULATOR 2,699.11 HRK 3,292.91 HRK 3,292.91 HRK

- it's about 300 quid!
Anyone care to give us a third opinion?
The good news is it looks like it's a common part on Bosch-equipped HDis:
Number of documents found by vehicle family:
1 document(s) found for 406
2 document(s) found for 406 new
1 document(s) found for 306 new
1 document(s) found for 206 (T1)
1 document(s) found for 307
1 document(s) found for 307 new
1 document(s) found for 806
2 document(s) found for 807
2 document(s) found for 607
2 document(s) found for 607 new
1 document(s) found for Partner (M49)
1 document(s) found for Boxer
2 document(s) found for Boxer 2
1 document(s) found for Expert 1 & 2
Re: fuel solenoid ???
Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2009 5:36 am
by djp30djp
Re: fuel solenoid ???
Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2009 7:49 am
by steve_earwig
OK, ok, I'm an idjut

(you sure they're not the same thing?

)
Re: fuel solenoid ???
Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2009 9:13 am
by amron
Wow thanks guys I could not get the translation page

and there are no idjuts here

just extremely helpful people....
Now that price is 133 euros .... and peugeots price is £296 including vat

Re: fuel solenoid ???
Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2009 11:15 am
by djp30djp
Are you even sure that is the fault? You should have other fault codes like P1113 or P1198 if the sensor is at fault. I would seek the help of a diesel injection specialist.
http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/question/in ... 910AA0MooU