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ABS Fault after fitting discs, pads & handbrake shoes

Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 9:02 pm
by nimike
Well, to cut a long story short... the back left started to leak to due a crack in the brake line which occurred during removal. Top up tank drained but system was topped up and bled out ok (solid brakes). Disconnected the battery during the bleeding process and the fault only appeared today and disappeared not long afterwards after 150 miles after everything was fitted. In the haynes manual it detailed on how to bleed where an ABS servo were present, by removing the battery which worked out ok. Will I have to bring this into Peugeot and get them to rebleed the system and servo? I know its 25 quid but im sure its money well spent to bleed and refill the system

Also noticed there is the odd rubbing noise... not sure if this is pads bedding in or the rear hand brake shoes. Anything else that I might have missed or something I should look out for?

Thanks

Mike

2002 2l petrol.

Re: ABS Fault after fitting discs, pads & handbrake shoes

Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 9:10 pm
by steve_earwig
It looks like so long as you don't turn the ignition on when the system's being bled then there shouldn't be any problems. Disconnecting the battery is belt and braces, I can't see there being any issues there.

Are you saying the fault came and went? No more fault? I suppose you could check the sensors, the toothed whatsits and the connections. The rubbing noise could conceivably be one of the ABS cable sensor cables rubbing on something.

Re: ABS Fault after fitting discs, pads & handbrake shoes

Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 9:23 pm
by jasper5
I did exactly the same job last week, new handbrake shoes and rear pads, the n/s rear pipe cracked on me as well.

I bled the system without the ignition on and had zero problems, but I fitted a clamp on the rubber brake hose where the metal pipe fits into.

I had the rubbing on the rear wheels also, this was due to the backplates rubbing on the disc, get hold of the backplate and twist it about or lever it away from the disc with a big screwdriver.

If anyone does these jobs in the future, fit a clamp on the rubber brake hose to stop fluid from emptying from the master cylinder.

If your ABS light has not come back on and the brakes are working well (taking account of bedding in time), then I wouldn't worry.

Re: ABS Fault after fitting discs, pads & handbrake shoes

Posted: Sat Apr 11, 2009 12:17 pm
by nimike
steve_earwig wrote:It looks like so long as you don't turn the ignition on when the system's being bled then there shouldn't be any problems. Disconnecting the battery is belt and braces, I can't see there being any issues there.

Are you saying the fault came and went? No more fault? I suppose you could check the sensors, the toothed whatsits and the connections. The rubbing noise could conceivably be one of the ABS cable sensor cables rubbing on something.
Yes, fault came on for about 10 mins and then cleared itself but the brakes are 100%. What are these ABS cable sensors, what do they look like and whereabouts are they? What do I need to look for when checking them?
jasper5 wrote:I did exactly the same job last week, new handbrake shoes and rear pads, the n/s rear pipe cracked on me as well.

I bled the system without the ignition on and had zero problems, but I fitted a clamp on the rubber brake hose where the metal pipe fits into.

I had the rubbing on the rear wheels also, this was due to the backplates rubbing on the disc, get hold of the backplate and twist it about or lever it away from the disc with a big screwdriver.

If anyone does these jobs in the future, fit a clamp on the rubber brake hose to stop fluid from emptying from the master cylinder.

If your ABS light has not come back on and the brakes are working well (taking account of bedding in time), then I wouldn't worry.
I will have a look next week on the backplates rubbing. It does sound like something along those lines, as its very intermittant.

Any more pointers or comments welcomed.

Thanks to all who have replied so far.

Mike

Re: ABS Fault after fitting discs, pads & handbrake shoes

Posted: Sat Apr 11, 2009 2:03 pm
by steve_earwig
nimike wrote:What are these ABS cable sensors, what do they look like and whereabouts are they? What do I need to look for when checking them?
Toothed rotors, front on driveshafts, rear on hubs, pick-ups for the same and the connecting cables thereof. The usual one seems to be the rotors on the front driveshafts falling off and possibly the cable being worn through by rubbing on something. As Jasper says, it's ok now don't worry too much.

Re: ABS Fault after fitting discs, pads & handbrake shoes

Posted: Sat Apr 11, 2009 8:51 pm
by nimike
steve_earwig wrote:
nimike wrote:What are these ABS cable sensors, what do they look like and whereabouts are they? What do I need to look for when checking them?
Toothed rotors, front on driveshafts, rear on hubs, pick-ups for the same and the connecting cables thereof. The usual one seems to be the rotors on the front driveshafts falling off and possibly the cable being worn through by rubbing on something. As Jasper says, it's ok now don't worry too much.
Ok, going on the removal of the rear discs, im thinking its the backplates that are creating the rubbing noise. Will give them another check again next week but its nothing that will fail the mot.

Thanks for all the replies.

Mike