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car polish,

Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 7:06 pm
by lozz
hi chaps,
what car polish do ya all use -just lookin for ideas what to buy,
ipolished my 406 took me 3hours and it looks absouloutly stunning ...not it looks shite :evil:

Merguiars polish n all .. its absoultly Warnk !!

Re: car polish,

Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 8:23 pm
by jamjar1383
when i polish my car if takes all day anf half the night (thats why i only do it twice a year)

i use

t-cut whole car
then a cheap polish ie. tesco own
then turtle wax

car shines like new and when i wash it it come back to how it was when i polished it.

overkill much???? mabie :lol: :lol:

Re: car polish,

Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 8:32 pm
by lozz
Cheers mate,
iwill T-cut it and polish it with simonz Hard -wax see if its any better,

Re: car polish,

Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 8:58 pm
by omega
lozz wrote:Cheers mate,
iwill T-cut it and polish it with simonz Hard -wax see if its any better,
well iam not a expert but i would not use t-cut,i would only use this if i was trying to restore some colour back to the paint as it removes paint from the car.

Re: car polish,

Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 9:00 pm
by Gary406
if you think meguires is sh*t you will certainly HATE T-cut.

my advice is stay the hell away from t-cut. its mainly for old paintwork thats faided badly ...

get your self a bottle of - AUTOGLYM SUPER RESIN POLISH ..

its sh*t hot stuff mate. polish the whole car with it . so its all white, leave it half hour then buff it off with your hand .
watch how easy it buffs off , no elbow grease needed ...

folowed by a cheap tin of back to black spray. spray it on the black trim and wipe in with a small sponge :cheesy:

Re: car polish,

Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 9:05 pm
by lozz
Gary406 wrote:if you think meguires is sh*t you will certainly HATE T-cut.

my advice is stay the hell away from t-cut. its mainly for old paintwork thats faided badly ...

get your self a bottle of - AUTOGLYM SUPER RESIN POLISH ..

its sh*t hot stuff mate. polish the whole car with it . so its all white, leave it half hour then buff it off with your hand .
watch how easy it buffs off , no elbow grease needed ...

folowed by a cheap tin of back to black spray. spray it on the black trim and wipe in with a small sponge :cheesy:
cheers mate.

Re: car polish,

Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2011 2:49 pm
by lozz
its all gleaming now 8)

but now its raining :evil:

why did i bother :?

Re: car polish,

Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2011 3:11 pm
by 406Iain
Id recommend Autoglym Super resin polish and then some Autoglym Extra gloss protection for over the top.Its designed to go over the top of the SRP and last wells,atleast 4 or 5 months before needing a top up.Both are easily available in Halfords.
I SRP'd my 407 and put some Dodojuice Rainforest rub on it the other day :) shiney

Re: car polish,

Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2011 8:02 am
by Welly
You need to start off by clay barring the car, then the rest of the treatments are a doddle.

I clayed the Volvo on Saturday it took 30 minutes.

I then used Megs Paint Cleaner polish Step 1 - apply and buff off.

Then Megs Polish Step 2 - apply and buff off.

Then Megs Carnuba Wax Step 3 - apply and buff off.

I did all 3 steps in 45 minutes (honest) but the main reason behind the speed was the Clay Bar at the start.

Also using Microfibre Applicator pads and Microfibre polishing towels speeds things up no end (instead of using stockinette).

Re: car polish,

Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2011 4:28 pm
by lozz
cheers all

iwont be polishing it for a bit me dont thinks, :cry:
fkin thing is driving me crazy battey charge fault and crazy electrics,
oh and to top it off the passenger seat as snapped in half :shock:

Furkin french cars for ya :|

Re: car polish,

Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2011 4:39 pm
by Gary406
:shock: :shock:

:lol: :lol:

Re: car polish,

Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2011 10:13 am
by Bailes1992
My how-to guide...
Now washing a car properly is quite a time consuming task although very rewarding, but it's anything but cheap! I said I'd do a writeup a few months ago but haven't had the time or space to do it.
Therefore this morning I was lucky when the Volvo threw a wobbly on the way back from the shop and would have to spend the day on the drive until the RAC turned up.
The detailing bug catches after a while, you might not be into it at first but you get to try different products, different techniques and your hooked! Just be warned because detailing products are expensive! I sort of lost my bug last year and wasn't bothered but was offered a job by a detailing company a few months ago and all of a sudden I've got right back into it :)
My house isnt really ideal for detailing at all, my drives on a slope and the garage isnt big enough and full of... well everything really?

You need to know for starters why a car needs to be cleaned and looked after properly. Lets start with Swirls...
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This picture is my cousins old fiesta just after he bought it. Swirls like these are caused by using sponges, squeegees, cloths with no pile, car washes etc etc. These happen because dirt is dragged over the surface of the car with nowhere to go so has to dig into the paintwork causing thousands of fine scratches all over the place giving this swirl effect.

Another reason for washing your car properly is marring and holograms...
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Pretty much any bad washing technique can cause these but claying with a hard clay will always cause these although a light polish will get rid of them easily enough.

By keeping your car well detailed and protected you will also have no worries about oxidization of paint and tar being a pain to remove.

Cleaning your car properly is done in the following steps...

1) Wheels
2) Prewash
3) Wash
4) Decontaminate
5) Polish
7) Seal
8) Dress
9) Wax Topping
10) Final Wipe Over

Lets start with the equiptment you need.

For cleaning your wheels, you need a good wheel cleaner, I use autoglyms custom wheel cleaner but I've started using some Simonz stuff which is ok but it's a gel which means I can leave it on for ages and it wont run down the wheels which is handy. What I tend to do it apply the Simonz, leave it a few mins, hose down the wheel and clean it in Autoglyms custom wheel cleaner.
Of course most of this is unnecessary and if you get a good wheel cleaner like Bilberrys Safe Wheel Cleaner or Meguires Wheel brightener you wont have any troubles and can be diluted so its good value.
Get a good set of wheel brushes, the £1 ones from the cheap shop WILL not work and usually have bits of metal sticking out everywhere which scratches your wheel! Get a good Meguires wheels brush! A cheep wash mit is also a very good idea for alloys and some paint brushes and stick some tape around the collar.
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For a prewash you need somthing to create a foam or lather to help soften the dirt. Simply cause im lazy and can't be bothered bringing my pressure washer out to play all the time I use a Superspray! For less than £10 you cannot go wrong for a prewash! Today I filled mine upto 1:1 with All Purpose Cleaner to strip the wax, this is not necessary usually and a capfull of Duragloss 900 Series shampoo to help it foam topped up by boiling hot water, I'd reccoment getting some detail brushes or even a good paint brush with some tape around the collar! It will all make sense in a bit.
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Now for washing you need a few good items, theres no point 'cheaping' out on them cause you might aswell go to the carwash! You need a mit or wash pad, something with a DEEP pile in it. There are sponges you can get like Zymol Sponges, Soft grout sponges and natural sea sponges (no not the ones you get from boots) which wont scratch but lets stick to mitts for now. There are two different type of mit you can get, microfiber or lambswool, they both do the job and are both great so which you choose is down to personal preference! Next is two buckets, yet go buy some bright orange 99p ones from B&Q they'll do perfectly :) Now to decide on a shampoo, you have Autoglyms Shampoo & Conditioner, it's ok but not much lather, duragloss do a nice shampoo which I like at the moment which is the 900 Series, Meguires do 2 shampoo's which last forever available in gallon bottles called Shampoo Plus and Hyperwash other than that most of the Meguires Shampoo's are good but if your on a budget you cant go wrong with there Soft Wash Gel! It's just under £4 for about 500ml and is there first every shampoo and is good for the money! Now a drying towel and a quick detailer is handy! Two types of drying towl and thats microfiber and waffle weave towels, I prefer microfiber but today im using a waffle weave towel and Meguires Last Touch for a quick detailer!
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If you live in a flat or where you cant get water then the following product is ideal! It's called Optimum No Rinse, mines an older version of it but all that really changed was the colour and the smell of it but it does the same job. Get some of this stuff, a mit, good drying towel, a pump sprayer and a bucket with a grit guard. Mix up some strongish ONR in the pump sprayer, spray a panel with a fine mist then mix a bucket of ONR to what the instructions say (can't remember off the top of my head). Wash down the panel you have just sprayed with the mit and ONR solution in a bucket and dry off with a drying towel, quick spray of some form of quick detailer or spray wax and a wipe down with a microfiber and you have a clean panel! Go round the whole car like this and it's actually a very good product that does not cause swirling or marring. Quite impressed myself at this and would be brilliant for shows and stuff like that!
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For decontamination you need a good tar and glue remover and a clay. Valet Pro do a good Citrus Tar & Glue remover that I swear by! It works very very well indeed although you do have to buy it in 5litres! Autoglym do Intensive Tar Remover but it's not all that good to be honest :( For a clay I'd recommend Bilt Hambers Auto-Clay, available in hard or soft compounds for obvious reasons. If your claying your car for the first time you use the hard one, if your just giving the car a quick going over then use the soft one. These can also be used with water which is good and they do a good job :) Although for today Im using Meguires Quick Clay System with Meguires Last Touch as a Lubricant.
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For a polish you may have to have more than one product depending on what your manufacturer you go to, meguires do a 3 step system and steps 1 and 2 leave a good base for a wax but step 2 is too oily for a sealant to bond to (you will leanr the difference between a sealant and a wax in a bit) but on the other hand Autoglym do Super Resin Polish which has extremely mild abrasives, paint cleaners and fillers which leaves a really good base for a wax. I have the following polishes in my kit at the moment...
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Today Im going for the super resin polish!

Now theres two different types of waxes you have a Syntectic Sealent or a Wax. Now a Wax will produce a more glossy wet looking finish where a Sealant will be much more sharp reflections and if you have a metallic paint it will bring out the flake more. In my collection I have Autoglyms Extra gloss protection, Autoglums Ultra Deep Sine (its an all in one product), Meguires NXT Tech Wax, Auto Balm and Meguires #16. Meguires #16 is a natural carnuba wax which is a product I haven't tired yet, has had rave reviews on detailing world which has lead to me finding out it's the old Zymol Carbon and has been made for 50 years by meguires, this tells me it's going to be good simply because if meguires make a bad product they change it! To still be making this 50 years down the line and to have Zymol selling it under there own brand for many years as Zymol Carbon it should be a brilliant product and a bargain at less than £12!
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(Just to note I've only just realized the autoglym product is Leather care and I thought it was extra gloss protection :rolleyes:)

Now you need something to dress plastics and tyres. For tyres you cant go wrong with Meguires Endurance gel and for plastics I recommend some of Duragloss's products :)

This is optional but I always give the car a quite wipe over with a spray wax before finishing just to add some extra protection. Meguires Ultimate Quick Detailer had quite a bit of protection in it but I do like Duragloss 951 Aquawax!
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Get a good quick detailer as it will come in handy for so many things! You can't go wrong with Meguires Last Touch! It dilutes 1:1 and is brilliant value!

Your going to need Microfiber cloths and foam and MF Applicators! You can never have enough microfibers. The 3 for £1 ones from tesco will scratch though!
So lets start with how to clean your car.

Firstly you need a car... any car, a dirty one will do ;)

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So lets start with the wheels, spray on your wheel cleaner and agitate, then wash off the foam. Simple...
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Next foam the car using your method of prewash, then get the paintbrush and detail brush and so in any crevices where the mit wont fit aswell as any grills etc etc...
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You car will look somthing like this...
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As you can see from the beading of the water theres still wax on the car...
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Now rinse the car off at high pressure to make sure theres no thick dirt on the car then get your two buckets, fill one with a shampoo micture and the other with plain water...
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This will sound abit odd but it will make sense! Soak your wash mitt in the shampoo solution then wipe over a panel, then put the mit in the clean water and run your fingers through it till its clean and wring it out, then put it back in the shampoo bucket and carry on to the next panel etc. If it's a hot day swill each panel as you wash them, if its cool then you can wash the car and swill afterwards!
Once the cars washed rinse it off with an open ended hose to sheet the water off the panels get your Quick Detailer and your drying towel and spray a fine mist on each panel and dry the panel with your towel!
Next you need to start claying, cut a piece of clay about 1cm by 2cm and roll it into a ball about the size of a pingpong ball and put it in some warm water for 10 mins to soften then roll it into a disc...
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Spray a panel with QD or water depending on what your type of clay prefers and work your clay around the car folding it on itself regularly to get a clean surface as soon as the clay discolours or gets dirty. Then wipe off the QD or water on the panel.

Now it's time to polish the paint. Now most polishes say to apply and leave to haze... well dont. You need to break down a polish then remove it straight away. I had to do this on glass to deomonstrate how to know when a polish as broken down because it wont show up on a white car :rolleyes:

Apply the polish thinly and work into an area spreading it out so you can apply it as thin as possible...
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Now the amount I put on the pad was for the bonnet and not the window!

Once worked in it will turn fairly transparent and hazy...
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This is when you know its broken down, if it's drying before it breaks down you can always use a quick spray of water or QD to keep it workable.
This is what it looked like after a quick polish...
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Now it's time to seal the polished paint. Weather you choose a sealant or wax is upto you but most waxes you follow the same routine to apply. Put a tiny bit on a foam applicator pad and apply it AS THINLY AS POSSIBLE! You want it so thin you can barley see it when you look at it head on!
While waiting for your first coat of wax to cure use the time to either dress your types or clean your exhaust if you have a chrome tailpipe.
Lets start with dressing your tyres. You can either get a proper applicator for dressings or you can just use a foam applicator. I have 2 dedicated foam applicators. I keep these in a resealable bag to stop everything else getting greasy...
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Now if you have a chrome exhaust you will want it clean and it's a fairly easy job to do, get some 00# Wire wool and a good paste metal polish! I use Megs NXT Metal Polysh which has lasted me the last 2 years :)
Simply give the wire wool a quick rub around the metal polish and buff the exhaust up, it will not scratch! Then get a cheapy microfiber cloth and buff it up, if its not as shiny as you'd like it, then put some polish on the microfibre and buff the exhaust up some more with that :)

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Buff off your wax with an Aid of a Quick Detailer as it just makes things easier. And Admire.
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Start packing all your detailing gear away and weather or not your going to use a spray wax or not bring out the right number of microfibers and your Spray Wax and or Quick Detailer.

Now my 'Wax Topper' is going to be Aquaqax! This stuff is gloss in a bottle and I love it!...
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Followed by a wipe down of Duragloss 921...
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The finished Car...
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Re: car polish,

Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2011 10:55 am
by Gary406
thats a bloody nice T5 i must say so ..

BLIMEY bailes you must work a full week just to payfor all that cleaning stuff :lol: :lol:

i simply [re wash with wash and wax let dry and autoglym it ..

but your way is better :lol:

Re: car polish,

Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2011 3:10 pm
by lozz
excelent stuff that bailes,
iwill have to get some of that Megs mirror Glaze me thinks, 8)

Re: car polish,

Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2011 9:06 pm
by Bailes1992
Gary406 wrote:thats a bloody nice T5 i must say so ..

BLIMEY bailes you must work a full week just to payfor all that cleaning stuff :lol: :lol:

i simply [re wash with wash and wax let dry and autoglym it ..

but your way is better :lol:
I worked for a small detailing firm for a while.
Lots I had on trial from Chemical companies wanting us to sell their products as our own.
Also had lots of other products to review.
Also had quite a few products on loan when I walked out of the company because my boss was a ruthless bastard to needed to be kicked into reality.
Either way I ruined his business and made Detailing World drop him as a supported.
He was stealing from foreign cutomers, tried to pay me £40 for 24 hrs work etc etc.