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bodywork sill
Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 3:49 pm
by smudger110a
Sill under the doors on the offside.Anybody ever bought one and never used it ? If so i'll buy it and pay postage or come and collect.It's an estate of 1998 vintage "the better one" type 8..This is the first one i have ever seen or even heard of rotting.I do hope that this is not going to be the norm for these" not normally"rotting cars.
Re: bodywork sill
Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 3:56 pm
by Welly
I think you'll be luck to find one smudgy, as you say they never normally rust. I'd say yours has been replaced at some point by a body shop and they haven't got the advantage of the best galvanising, anti-chip agents, underseals etc that the factory have.
I'm sure you'll get a pattern one from somewhere?
Re: bodywork sill
Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 4:24 pm
by steve_earwig
Or it's been full of water...
Pug don't seem to sell just the sill, more the whole damn side

There doesn't seem to be anyone selling pattern sills either

Loos like you're either plating it or off to the breakers with a hammer and chisel

Re: bodywork sill
Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 4:28 pm
by smudger110a
Peugeot want nearly £200 pound,searched the net and NOBODY is making a pattern part

,so, i bought the whole side off a scrappy for £40 quid and now i am going to unpick it and put the bit in that i want,The whole length that is,.good job i am a welder and i do enjoy welding,but just not on my own cars,I prefer to be paid for what i do,especially at the moment.Not much into plating,I prefer to do a job on it so that no one knows i've been there,do you know what i mean steve-earwig ?,Nothing worse than a bodge job,YUK !
Re: bodywork sill
Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 5:43 pm
by teamster1975
smudger110a wrote:Nothing worse than a bodge job,YUK !
*Teamster gets his coat*
Re: bodywork sill
Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 5:49 pm
by steve_earwig
smudger110a wrote:i've been there,do you know what i mean steve-earwig ?,Nothing worse than a bodge job,YUK !
Oh no, there's nothing wrong with a cover sill, tack welded at 6 inch intervals

(all the structural rigidity of a flower pot).
I always have problems with continuous welding, in that things often change shape

. Any chance you could post some pics so we can see how someone who knows what they're doing does it?
Re: bodywork sill
Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 9:14 pm
by smudger110a
Not a problem steve-earwig,I just dont know how to get the pictures on here to show ya mate !The worst part is unpicking it from the trash that is not needed.If someone can enlighten me as to how in plain English load pictures on here,i'm all ears.. Ray
Re: bodywork sill
Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 9:19 pm
by smudger110a
steve_earwig wrote:smudger110a wrote:i've been there,do you know what i mean steve-earwig ?,Nothing worse than a bodge job,YUK !
Oh no, there's nothing wrong with a cover sill, tack welded at 6 inch intervals

(all the structural rigidity of a flower pot).
I always have problems with continuous welding, in that things often change shape

. Any chance you could post some pics so we can see how someone who knows what they're doing does it?
The panels only go out of shape if the body is on axle stands,I will always where possible,put the wheels on to car ramps and let it stand on it's own axles,that way it finds it's own level and shut down most of the chance of distortion.Well ya dont need the wheels off to weld a sill on,Ay ! ?
Re: bodywork sill
Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 10:24 pm
by steve_earwig
I meant things tend to go a bit wibbly-wobbly with the localised heat if I try to do a continuous weld.
Re: bodywork sill
Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 4:51 pm
by trem1
smudger110a wrote:Not a problem steve-earwig,I just dont know how to get the pictures on here to show ya mate !The worst part is unpicking it from the trash that is not needed.If someone can enlighten me as to how in plain English load pictures on here,i'm all ears.. Ray
photo's are really easy honest if i can do it anyone can
1: sign up to photobucket its free
2:click on my albums on photobucket
3:click on upload images (middle of screen) ish
4:pick the photo's you wanna upload and open 406oc in another tab
5:make sure 406 open and you've replied to post (the big box is open)
6: right click on img code on photobucket
7: right click in the box and paste
8:click on preview and you should see your pictures
sounds a lot more work than it is try it it really is easy
Re: bodywork sill
Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 11:06 pm
by smudger110a
Thanks trem 1,I will try and do that when i start the job.regards Ray
Re: bodywork sill
Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 9:50 am
by turbolag
Welton wrote:I think you'll be luck to find one smudgy, as you say they never normally rust. I'd say yours has been replaced at some point by a body shop and they haven't got the advantage of the best galvanising, anti-chip agents, underseals etc that the factory have.
Except that the factory don't galvanise the cars either...they used a hot dip zinc phosphorescent process, which is a paint technique, not galvanising.
Re: bodywork sill
Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 10:00 am
by mjb
turbolag wrote:Except that the factory don't galvanise the cars either...they used a hot dip zinc phosphorescent process, which is a paint technique, not galvanising.
Galvanising is basically just the process of putting zinc on ferrous metal, doesn't matter how, whether it be dipped or electro-plating...
Re: bodywork sill
Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 7:24 pm
by turbolag
Except it's not hot dip, electro plated or rolled-galvanised. It's dipped in a paint primer which contains zinc as one of its many chemical components. To say it's galvanised in any way, shape or form is totally inaccurate
Re: bodywork sill
Posted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 3:01 am
by mjb
turbolag wrote:Except it's not hot dip, electro plated or rolled-galvanised. It's dipped in a paint primer which contains zinc as one of its many chemical components. To say it's galvanised in any way, shape or form is totally inaccurate
So it's a ferrous metal (steel) covered in zinc, and to say it's galvanised (by definition a ferrous metal covered in zinc) is "totally inaccurate"?
Hang on, didn't you say just 2 posts ago that they used a hot dip galvanising method?