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Im becoming quite attached to my peugeot and am thinking about having the bonnet and bumper reprayed etc. Any ideas on the cost and what should i be looking for when I choose someone?

Ps its diablo red (mettalic)

Cost varies dramatically between people. What is wrong with your bonnet and bumper? I intended to respray my old 406 before i sold it. Laquer peeling due to a bad respray job before.

thought it would. Had some bad chips to the front and a little rust coming through. I made hash of it and could do with a complete spray. Bumper has peeled towards the bottom edge and lots of marks.

Best thing you could do is price around the place. When i was pricing mine, i got quoted between €250 and €500 for the same job. Ask friends/family who got resprays done before from a reputable place. A bad spray job will cost you even more a year or two down the line.

Cheers. Agreed, i want a decsent job as it will only need doing again otherwise and whats the point. Suppose i would expect to pay about 400 ish.

Mine was Diablo Red and I had the back bumper done (for free actually but that's another story) and the bodyshop said Diablo Red is a pig to match, it's Pearlescent rather than Metalic and there's chuffing loads of slightly-different shades used I agree as the bumper beforehand was a slightly darker shade where someone else had had a go at some point.

The bodyshop got it bang on for me but even he commented on how he could only get is "as close as possible" for me but I couldn't really tell a difference. I'd be carefull and get some proper advice as you may feel like needing the wings doing as well, then where do you stop? and there's nothing worse than miss-matched panels

This table might help just for some info...http://www.peugeotlogic.com/workshop/ws ... aintc2.htm

Oh and the bumper only would have cost £150.00

Rich... more expensive is not always better!!!

I've managed bodyshops for nearly 10 years now and and seen 'shoddy' very expensive work all too many times.

All bodyshops now use waterbased paints which is harder to get a good finish(not very forgiving paint) and is more expensive on the whole than the old oil based Ask if they buy in paint in quarts or tint their own scheme.
Ask any potential bodyshop if they will be removing the bonnet and bumper.. a good bodyshop should be able to do this in minutes and excuses of time/expense is nonsense. this eliminates 'overspray' and 'dry' areas.
The bonnet should be easy to repair making sure the whole bonnet is primed after the filler has gone on... they may use a product called 'Top Stop' to fill any stone chips, this is lazy and will cause 2 problems
1. if you polish the car regular then any silicone wax will be stuck in the chips and will seep out when painted causing silicone bursts NO MATTER WHAT!!!
2. when wet sanded it will come out of some smaller chips so when its painted your bonnet will have little craters all over it.

The car should the sanded until the chips disappear... easy!

Your Diablo red is a slight Xirallic compound which has multi layers of metallic which will need to be built up 3-4 time to obtain the correct colour

When the bonnet is painted it should then be re-fitted to the car and 'soft-edged' in preparation for being for a last coat that will incorporate the wing tops. this makes sure all metallics reflect the light in the same direction and stops the panel looking like white on black!

When the car is re-fitted it should be checked under infrared light if possible as this will show up any imperfections and mapping lines... these are easily rectified though.

A good guide is to use a small Bodyshop.. all and I mean all major dealers contract their own work out to smaller better independant painters as these are always better, The painters will be proffessional and all products used will be of top quality as they are chosen for performance not cost. the work will represent their company brand not just some 19yr old sprayer churning out 20 paints a day for a big company. stick to that and you'll not go wrong and they'll look after you too.

You should be paying £160-£200 for the bonnet and £120 is for the bumper. Under £300 would be value for money.

God i need a new job!

Welton wrote:the bodyshop said Diablo Red is a pig to match, it's Pearlescent rather than Metalic

Be careful... Diablo Red is not and pearl or metallic but a XIRALLIC in waterbase form... its about 6 types of Red xirallic over a flat red base coat, any body shop that mixes the Tints as a Pearl will cause the paint too look DARK from some angles in comparison to other panels adjacent.

I've not heard of Xirallic but most would associate a pearl finish as some kind of multi-effect paint I suppose and I was just kinda correcting the OP's impression of Diablo being a 'Metallic' then I started going on about how hard it is to match which, in a way, you have concured with.

I remember tiny flecks of Blue in mine I'm sure. Nice color actually and especially on a summers day.

Here's me bodging mine:


Sunny day:

wow. milybar thats got to be the best post ive had.... dude youre a star !!!! I will give some local people a shout armed with your advice.

Welton wrote:I've not heard of Xirallic but most would associate a pearl finish as some kind of multi-effect paint I suppose and I was just kinda correcting the OP's impression of Diablo being a 'Metallic' then I started going on about how hard it is to match which, in a way, you have concured with

Sorry Welton thats just me being sad mate... pearlescent I know is the term used by people for how it looks in the sun, The reason diablo red looks so good is the Xirallic is applied by using first, A deep flat Red base coat then around 4-7 layers of Xirallic transparent coats which contain SPECTROMATS and give it a deep red finish and loads of different colours when you look closer.

The easy difference is this....
XIRALLIC Refracts light(allowing light to pass through) producing 120.000.000 colours under a spectrometer.

PEARLS Reflect colour which gives a variation of 3 colours RED GREEN BLUE from different angles. This is what the human eye can see easily called TRICHOMATS


Thats no problem Rich... give me a PM if you need any advice.

Adam

Welton wrote:I've not heard of Xirallic but most would associate a pearl finish as some kind of multi-effect paint I suppose and I was just kinda correcting the OP's impression of Diablo being a 'Metallic' then I started going on about how hard it is to match which, in a way, you have concured with.

I remember tiny flecks of Blue in mine I'm sure. Nice color actually and especially on a summers day.

Here's me bodging mine:


Sunny day:

I remember those photos from ages ago, you did a nice job on the touch up that time. I can never work those brushes. Do you miss it welly??

eoin27 wrote:Do you miss it welly??

In a word, No.