The Car (and jeep)

[FarmerPug]

both mine work fine but on a cold night they take about 5 mins to get going. Go out on a cold night with a suit pair of trousers on and a t shirt. Then youll see whats wrong with them

[highlander]

I wear a coat when I go out. It's winter, y'know

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-11941521

[FarmerPug]

i normally wear a coat but had to experience how cold leater is for once. Never had a car with leather before.

[Captain Jack]

Yes, as comfy as leather is on "normal" days, it is rather annoying in cold and hot weathers (either of which we don't get in UK much), where you either freeze your bollocks off or fry them.

We had a new Ford Mondeo for hire on one of the business trips in the winter in Germany and it had heated but cloth seats. They took literally seconds to warm up, unlike in leather clad ones in 406 and the Accord I used to have (in fact, Accord ones were much worse than 406's).

[Gary406]

executive how did you wire the LED boot lights up ?

did you wire the plus and neg to the boot bulb so they come on when boot is opened ?

[FarmerPug]

Nope i got the neg from the earth, and the Plus from the bootlight, then there is a Toggle switch mounted to the boot roof and thats it, i still have the standard light when they are switched off but i can turn them on for extra light when needed, and because its powered with the normal light it all turns off when the boots closed.

[Gary406]

would the LEDs not work with the standard boot light if you wire it to them ?

auto on when boot opened is my idea if it will work

[FarmerPug]

thats how they work, they get the -ve from the metal roof in the boot ie below the parcel shelf, and the +ve goes first to a switch and then to the +ve of the bootlight.
Its auto on with boot yes.

[Gary406]

oh i get ya, so you just leave the switch on ?

and if needs be you can turn them off.

good idea

[FarmerPug]

yip the switch is just there if i put the dog in the boot i dont want to blind him when i open it, and its another button to press, who has ever said too many buttons is a bad thing.

[Gary406]

i'm gonna steal your idea if you dont mind but i'm going to wire them straight to the +&- on the standard bulb

[FarmerPug]

you idea thief.
no only joking, if you need any help with the instalation just ask, what sort of leds do you intend to use

[Gary406]

was gonna get the long strip LEDs from maplin and stick them under the shelf right at the back facing down

[Gary406]

since paypal have f*cked me over and i cant sell on ebay anymore

[FarmerPug]

I used Led lights intended as front fogs, but a strip would do just as well, although glue might finally give after time, i used pop rivets for a satisfying instalation.
On the issue of Paypal i think they are down at the moment, something to do with wikileaks it says on the news:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-11957367