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quick help in here,

Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2011 7:58 pm
by roverv8
k, need to adjust the hand brake on my 406 r reg, cant find mr ear wigs post can someone please post it as need to sort it quick,many thanks,mark

Re: quick help in here,

Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2011 8:19 pm
by steve_earwig

Re: quick help in here,

Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2011 8:22 pm
by roverv8
cool, thank you. :)

Re: quick help in here,

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2011 9:09 am
by roverv8
ta steve, brakes were adjusted last night and its at mot today, :cheesy:

Re: quick help in here,

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2011 10:08 am
by steve_earwig
No problemo :cheesy:

Re: quick help in here,

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2011 10:59 am
by teamster1975
I've made that how-to a sticky as it seems to be coming up quite often!

Re: quick help in here,

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2011 11:06 am
by steve_earwig
Ewww, sticky :supafrisk:

How'd the MOT go?

Re: quick help in here,

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2011 4:36 pm
by roverv8
well i dont think peugeot like me, :shock: :) adjusted hand brake went from 14% down to 11% and yes i did tighten it up then slacken it off ,i can understand it going up a little then fail but down? have to pull off discs and rough up new shoes and drum readjust and then cable. think its down to new shoes and drums,

Re: quick help in here,

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2011 5:00 pm
by steve_earwig
Aww boogeration :(

Scuff up the inside of the disk/drums with something really course :wink:

Re: quick help in here,

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2011 8:06 pm
by roverv8
have just done this (rubed them up on the inside of drums and shoes) will do cable tomorrow but not happy with the out come when i put the wheels on and tightened them the n/s still slips not a great deal but enough, i don`t know if that would be ok for mot test machine :evil:

Re: quick help in here,

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2011 8:59 pm
by steve_earwig
Is this by hand or driving along and yanking the handbrake on? If it's by hand I don't think it's going to cut the mustard I'm afraid.

Re: quick help in here,

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2011 9:11 pm
by roverv8
steve_earwig wrote:Is this by hand or driving along and yanking the handbrake on? If it's by hand I don't think it's going to cut the mustard I'm afraid.
with a long bar on one of the studs/wheel nuts to tighten the wheels,i was tightening the wheel at the time

Re: quick help in here,

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2011 9:40 pm
by dummysock
Hi

When you have removed the drums/discs, take off the expander mechanism ( the bit the cable is attached to inside the drums ) on both sides. Clean both expanders with fine emery and lube with copperslip. Reassemble and take up the slack in the drums with adjusters till they can't turn and slacken off slightly. Then try handbrake

Lets face it if the cable is free and tight, then the shoes are not moving onto the drums. What does this, the expander mechanism.

Hope this helps

Re: quick help in here,

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2011 10:54 pm
by jasper5
You need to identify the problem first....take off the drum/disc at the side where the problem lies then get someone to pull the handbrake on and off whilst you look at the mechanism to see if it is moving the shoes to their fullest potential.

If the shoes aren't moving correctly then first check the expander as dummysock suggests, if that is working then you need to look at the cable operation...obviously if the expander is the problem follow the advice given, if not, check the cable is moving freely, if not, replace it.

Re: quick help in here,

Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2011 1:25 pm
by roverv8
ok,when i replaced shoes the expander was very stiff and did not come apart after a bit of a grease up the expander come apart and was nice and loose so on they both went, on inspection last night (my fault :oops: ) i noticed a load of oil on shoes and drum (the coating of oil when you buy new discs) this is what i should have cleaned out when i fitted new disc, slipped my mind i remember doing the outer disc so foot brake would have been good,but didn't clean off in drum area, so rubbed down shoes there good now and then in drums, o/s wont move but n/s slips a tad when you go at the wheel nuts with a big bar, so im going to have the disc off again(fot the 3rd time) :evil: and see if shoes still has any oil marking on them,