Part numbers and some advice needed.

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Part numbers and some advice needed.

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Hi all,

As you can probably see i am new to this site and i wanted to ask the more experienced and knowledgeable members of the site for some part numbers and some advice.

I have an LX model of the 406 and have owned it for a couple of years.
I wasn't intending on keeping it for as long as i have but over the time i've had it i have had to concede that it is a very good car and it has been super reliable for me and my family.

The issue i have is this.

when i turn left, or into a long left hand bend it feels like the front right hand wheel is slipping.
Like it is wheel spinning.
There is also a whine that can be heard at the same time which sounds like a car travelling in reverse. Sorry, that's the best way i can describe it.

I have a neighbour who said that it sounds very similar to a problem his brothers car had and it was solved by replacing the drive shafts.
I wanted to ask if anyone here has had this issue and what was done to remedy the problem.
I was initially thinking that it could have been something to do with the steering rack or the drive shaft bearings but now i'm not so sure.

The other thing i needed to ask is part numbers.

First off, my motor is a 98 R registered vehicle.
I'm unsure of anything more i can give you for info about this car other than the I.D. tag has this above the chassis number.
e2*93/81*0025*05
If it helps i can put my chassis number up.

I want to start buying and replacing some of the smaller parts for the cars brakes and suspension. Things like anti-roll linkages and such.
I also want to replace the clutch as that will need doing now too.

I have a list of part numbers and wanted to ask you guy's if i'm correct in which ones are compatible.

Clutch: 2050.Y2 or possibly 2052.J1
Front break discs: 4246T6
Drive shaft bearing: 324703
Rear anti-roll bar suspension bush: 517243 / 5172.43
Front Wishbone Rear Bush: 352361 (this does say it ranges between 95-04 but want to be sure)

I don't have part numbers for the drive shafts but there is a salvage yard near to where i live that has a set of near and off sides from a T reg motor and i can only assume they would be the same.
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One other question i would like to ask is, how/were can i identify the exact model for my vehicle?

I've looked on the DAM label on the drivers door but it has a 10 digit code which has completely threw me.
I was also looking for the ID tag for the engine to see which type it is but i can't see that anywhere.

Can someone guide me on where to look for these and also help with my original post please?

Thx
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Hi,
to get the correct info on parts you need,you wouid be best to run your vin number through service box,
perhaps someone wouid kindly do that for you if you asked,

ipresume your car is D8 Mark 1
the Treg you mention in the Breakers yard may be an Early stage Mk2 -d9 you wouid be best checking its the same as yours before taking parts from it,
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If you don't want to put your vin publicly on the forum, then pm me your VIN and i'll run it through Service Box, put up your vehicle characteristics and confirm part numbers

Also if you can get the VIN off the T reg in the scrapper, I can confirm if the shafts are the same
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Thanks guy's.

I'm not sure on the whole D8, D9 model information Lozz.
I'm not even sure of how many models there are just in saloons.
I can only assume that my model is a mark 1 as it is the pre-facelift 98 model.



Hi Plod,
Vin number incoming matey.
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Re: Part numbers and some advice needed.

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General Information

PRODUCT TYPE CAR
COMMERCIAL MARQUE/COMPONENT TYPE PEUGEOT
VEHICLE FAMILY 406
SILHOUETTE 4 DOOR SALOON
TRIM LEVEL SELECTION PACK
ENGINE INJECTION XU10J4R
TRANSMISSION BVM5
PAINT TYPE METALLIC PAINTWORK
BODY COLOUR EKQ - PAINT - WICKED RED
INTERIOR TRIM TYPE DUNE VELVET "BM"
UPHOLSTERY COLOUR "FT"
GEARBOX (CHARACTERISTICS) BE3 V
ENGINE (TYPE) XU/XUD
OTHER BADGE WITHOUT FULLER BADGE
BADGE LX


Vehicle Characteristics

TRIM LEVEL SELECTION PACK
PAINT TYPE METALLIC PAINTWORK
BODY COLOUR EKQ - PAINT - WICKED RED
INTERIOR TRIM TYPE DUNE VELVET "BM"
UPHOLSTERY COLOUR "FT"
GEARBOX (CHARACTERISTICS) BE3 V
STEERING UNVARIABLE POWER STEERING
SPEEDOMETER DRIVE TACHO TORQUE 22X18


Fuel Supply - Engine

ENGINE INJECTION XU10J4R
FUEL LEAD FREE PETROL
EMISSIONS STANDARD (ENGINE) EEC 95 DEPOLL (ENGINE)
PRE-FILTER ASSEMBLY WITHOUT PRE-FILTER
SPEED SENSOR SIGNAL SENSOR HALL EFFECT
ENGINE (TYPE) XU/XUD
CATALYTIC CONVERTER 3 PARTS CATALYST
OIL COOLER WITHOUT OIL-WATER DISTR CHAMB
FUEL TANK INSULATION FUEL TANK INTERIOR INSULATION
CRANKCASE GAS CIRCUIT HEATING W/O HEATER CASING GAS CIRCUIT
FUEL SUPPLY CUTOFF FUEL FEED CUT-OFF
RHEOSTAT RHEOSTAT
FAN 2 FANS , 2 RATES , IMPROVED
FUEL VAPOUR RETRIEVAL CONTROLLED PETROL VAPOUR RECUPERATION
INJECTION ASSOCIATED VARIANT W/O INJECTION VARIANT


Gearbox Transmission

TRANSMISSION BVM5
GEARBOX (CHARACTERISTICS) BE3 V
FINAL DRIVE RATIO REAR AXLE HYPOID GEARSET 19 X 79
SPEEDOMETER DRIVE TACHO TORQUE 22X18
WHEEL STYLE STEEL WHEEL
CLUTCH CABLE CLUTCH
GEARBOX SAFETY LOCK W/O G/BOX SECURITY LOCKING
TYRE (SIZE, TYPE) 195X65X15 H TYRES
WHEELS FITTED 6" RIM ROAD WHEELS
WHEEL (TYPE) STEEL WHEELS
GEARBOX TYPE BE3


Suspension - Steering - Brakes

ABS WITH ABS BRAKES
REAR ANTI-ROLL BAR REAR ANTI-ROLL BAR DIAM 22
ANTI-THEFT DEVICE STANDARD ANTI-THEFT
STEERING UNVARIABLE POWER STEERING
FRONT ANTI-ROLL BAR FRONT ANTI-ROLL BAR DIAM 23
TRACTION CONTROL WITHOUT ANTISLIPPING
SERVICE BRAKE WITH COMPENSATOR SLAVE
BRAKE TYPE VENTILATED FRONT DISCS/REAR DISCS
POWER STEERING FLUID COOLING SYSTEM WITH COOLING
SUSPENSION NORMAL SUSPENSION
ACTIVE SUSPENSION WITHOUT VARIABLE SUSPENSION


Body Fittings

HORNS HORNS-HARMONY
AERIAL LONG ROOF AERIAL
WIPER ARM FRONT BLADE WITH DEFLECTOR
SIDE MOULDINGS (TYPE) PROTECTOR W/O CHROME RING
SIDE MOULDINGS (DIMENSION) LATERAL PROTECTORS WIDTH = 50
WHEEL EMBELLISHER (STYLE) QUARTZ STYLE 8 HOLES 15 INCHES
SIDE REPEATER INDICATORS SIDE FLASH-UNIT ASSEMBLY
INDICATORS WITHOUT SIGNALING LIGHTS
THIRD BRAKE LAMP WITH EYE LEVEL REAR LIGHTS
SILL ILLUMINATION LAMP WITHOUT SILL ILLUMINATION
ADDITIONAL SHIELD (UNDER ENGINE) W/O ENGINE UNDERSHELDING
WASHER JET WINDSHIELD WASHER JET W/O DEFROST
EXT. REARVIEW MIRROR COMP. FUNCTION WITHOUT FULLER FUNCTION
EXHAUST TAILPIPE TRIM W/O EMBELLISHER
ENGINE BAY SOUNDPROOFING BONNET SOUND-PROOFING
WINDSCREEN GLASS (TYPE) NO HEATING WINDSCREEN
WINDSCREEN WIPER INTERMITTENT WINDSCREEN WIPER W/O WATER LEVEL INDI
REAR SCREEN WIPER W/O REAR SCREEN WASH WIPE
HEADLAMP WIPER W/O HEADLAMP WIPER
FRONT PANEL BLANK WITHOUT FRONT BUMPER PLUG
BUMPER BUMPERS WITHOUT EMBELLISHER
MUDFLAP WITHOUT MUDGUARD
LUGGAGE RACK WITHOUT ROOF BARS
FRONT FOGLAMP NO FRONT FOG LIGHTS
EXTERIOR REAR VIEW MIRROR (DRIVER SIDE) HT EXT RRVW MIRROR EL INT CONTR
EXTERIOR REAR VIEW MIRROR (PASSENGER SIDE) OUTSIDE PASS RRVIEW MIRROR HEATED ELEC CNTRL
SPARE WHEEL STEEL WHEEL + STANDARD TYRE
EXTERIOR ACCESSORIES DOOR MIRROR AND HANDLES BODY COLOUR
SUN ROOF ELECTRIC SUN ROOF
GLASS (APPEARANCE) TINTED
REAR QUARTER WINDOW (TYPE) WITHOUT REAR QUARTER GLASS
WINDOW (TYPE) LAMINATED QUALITY 2


Interior Fittings

INTERIOR TRIM TYPE DUNE VELVET "BM"
REAR HEAD RESTRAINT REAR HEADREST ADJUSTABLE
FRONT HEAD RESTRAINT JOINTED FRONT HEADREST
REAR SEAT REAR BENCH SEAT SINGLE CUSHION SEPARATE SEAT BACKS
SUPPLEMENTARY SEAT WITHOUT SUPPLEMENTARY SEAT POSITN
REAR SEAT ARMREST WITH REAR ARMREST
INTERIOR ALARM ALARM FORGET LIGHTS
LOAD FLOOR MOULDING WITHOUT LOAD FLOOR STRIP
RADIO TELEPHONE WITHOUT TELEPHONE PRE-EQUIPMENT
LUGGAGE COVER WITHOUT LUGGAGE COVER
FRONT SEATBELT PYROTECHNIC SEAT BELT WITHOUT ALARM
AIR CONDITIONING MANUAL CONTROL CAR HEATER
SPEED GRADUATIONS GRADUATION MPH
TACHOMETER REV COUNTER WITH NEEDLE
RADIO EQUIPMENT FEED AERIAL RECEIV FRT SPEAKER TWT REAR SPEAKER
CONSOLE LONG CONSOLE
DRIVING POSITION RIGHT HAND DRIVE
REMOTE CONTROL REMOTE CONTROL ASSEMBLY
LOAD SPACE LIGHTING GLOVE-BOX LIGHTING
DASHBOARD EQUIPMENT DASHBOARD LARGE GLOVE BOX COVER, WOODEN TRIM
INTERFERENCE SUPPRESSION RADIO INTERFERENCE SUPPRESSOR
MISC. INT. LAMPS MAP READING LAMP
LOAD SPACE TRIM BOOT TRIM
DOOR TRIM WITHOUT WOOD EFFECT DECOR WITHOUT LEATHER
TACHOMETER (SIGNAL CONNECTION) REV COUNTER CALC
CHILD SEAT ANCHORING POINTS WITHOUT CHILD SEAT MOUNTING
LOUDSPEAKER MOUNTING 4 LOUDSPEAKERS + 2 TWEETERS
RADIO CONTROLS REMOTE RADIO CONTROL
POLLEN FILTER WITH POLLEN FILTER
SCREENING (BLIND, SIDE SUNBLIND, SUNROOF) WITHOUT SUN VISOR SCREEN
FRONT PASSENGER SEAT HEIGHT CONTROL WITHOUT FRONT PASSENGER SEAT HEIGHT ADJUSTMENT
DRIVER SEAT CONTROL DRIVERS FRT SEAT MANUAL CNTROL
FRONT PASSENGER SEAT CONTROL PASSENGER FRT SEAT MANUAL CNTR
DRIVER SEAT ADJUSTMENT DRIVER’S LUMBAR ADJUSTMENT
FRONT PASSENGER SEAT ADJUSTMENT PASSENGER TILTING BACK
INT. UPHOLSTERY ELEMENTS NOT WEAVED ROOF TRIM
FRONT SEAT ARMREST ASSEMBLY WITHOUT FRONT ELBOW REST
EXTERIOR TEMP. INDICATOR EXT TEMP INDICATOR
COMPACT DISC WITHOUT COMPACT DISC
HANDBRAKE WARNING LAMP WITHOUT PARKING BREAK INDICATOR
REAR WINDOW LIFT MAN CTRL REAR WINDOW LIFTER
DRIVER’S WINDOW LIFT SEQUENTIAL DRIVER’S ELECTRIC WINDOW
PASSENGER’S WINDOW LIFT ELEC CNTRL PASS FRONT WINDOW LIFTER
DISPLAY DISPLAY (CLOCK AND OR TEMP)
CLOCK NUMERIC CLOCK
COURTESY MIRROR DRIVER+PASSENGER WITHOUT LIGHTING
OIL GAUGE W/O OIL LEVEL INDICATOR
FITTING REAR HEAD RESTRAINT MOUNT 2 REAR HEAD-REST
HEATING ELEMENT NON HEATED SEAT
FRONT LATERAL AIRBAG WITHOUT FRONT SIDE AIRBAG
PASSENGER AIRBAG PASSENGER AIRBAG
ELECTRIC WINDOW (OPERATION) DRIVERS SIDE ELECTRIC WINDOW AUTO STOP
LOUDSPEAKER GRILLE (REAR PASSENGER COMPARTMENT) WITH REAR SHELF LOUDSPEAKER GRILLE
ON-BOARD COMPUTER NO COMPUTER
COURTESY LAMP FR+RE DOORS CONT - FR+RE INTERIOR LAMP
HEADLAMP HEIGHT ADJUSTER REMOTE MANUAL HEADLAMP ADJUSTMENT
FRONT SUN VISOR DRIV+PASS SIDE (W/O NOTICE)
RADIO RECEIVER PERFORMANCE 4 RDS RADIO
REFRIGERATION AIR CONDITIONING
CRUISE CONTROL WITHOUT SPEED CONTROL
DRIVER’S SEAT HEIGHT CONTROL PARR+FR DRV HEIGHT ADJ
INTERIOR REAR VIEW MIRROR DAY -NIGHT INNER REAR MIRROR
RHEOSTAT RHEOSTAT
AIR CON./TEMPERATURE REGULATION WITHOUT REGULATION AIRCON/TEMP
STORAGE (OTHERS) FRONT SEAT STORAGE + 2 BOXES IN BOOT
CARPET COVER W/O CARPETMAT
DRIVER AIRBAG DRIVERS AIR BAG
CARPET DILOURS CARPET F330
LIGHTING TIMER WITHOUT TIMER
INTERIOR PROTECTION WITHOUT INNER PROTECTION
SWITCH ELECTRONIC ANTI-THEFT KEY
COOLANT LEVEL WARNING LAMP NO WATER LEVEL WARNING
ANTIPOLLUTION MALFUNCTION WARNING LAMP BAD FUNCTIONING ALARM
EQUALISER AMPLIFIER WITHOUT EQUALISER AMPLIFIER
LOCKING CONTROL CENTRAL DEAD LOCKING
REAR QUARTER WINDOW (TYPE) WITHOUT REAR QUARTER GLASS
WINDOW (TYPE) LAMINATED QUALITY 2
STEERING WHEEL RUBBER STEERING WHEEL,4 BRANCH
FAN 2 FANS , 2 RATES , IMPROVED


Electrical

ALTERNATOR ALTERNATOR 90 AMP
HORNS HORNS-HARMONY
BATTERY BATTERY L2 300
REMOTE CONTROL REMOTE CONTROL ASSEMBLY
STARTER MOTOR STARTER MOTOR CL 3
LOAD SPACE LIGHTING GLOVE-BOX LIGHTING
SPECIAL LIGHTING WITHOUT PARTICULAR LIGHT
INTERFERENCE SUPPRESSION RADIO INTERFERENCE SUPPRESSOR
MISC. INT. LAMPS MAP READING LAMP
SIDE REPEATER INDICATORS SIDE FLASH-UNIT ASSEMBLY
INDICATORS WITHOUT SIGNALING LIGHTS
THIRD BRAKE LAMP WITH EYE LEVEL REAR LIGHTS
SILL ILLUMINATION LAMP WITHOUT SILL ILLUMINATION
EXT. REARVIEW MIRROR COMP. FUNCTION WITHOUT FULLER FUNCTION
COURTESY LAMP FR+RE DOORS CONT - FR+RE INTERIOR LAMP
FRONT FOGLAMP NO FRONT FOG LIGHTS
HEADLAMP HEIGHT ADJUSTER REMOTE MANUAL HEADLAMP ADJUSTMENT


Miscellaneous

SPECIAL SPECIFICATION STANDARD
ATMOSPHERIC CONDITIONS NORMAL ATMOSPHERE
FIRST AID KIT WITHOUT FIRST AID BOX
DRIVING POSITION RIGHT HAND DRIVE
TRAFFIC SIDE DRIVING ON THE LEFT-HAND SIDE
SIDE IMPACTS DOOR WITHOUT REINFORCEMENT
SET OF KEYS 2 HF PLIP KEYS
SURFACE CONDITIONS GOOD TERRAIN
EXTERIOR ACCESSORIES DOOR MIRROR AND HANDLES BODY COLOUR
SPEED MONITORING WITHOUT SPEED CHECK
EMERGENCY WARNING TRIANGLE WITHOUT WARNING TRIANGLE
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Re: Part numbers and some advice needed.

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Yes, your car is what we refer to as the D8 - as you correctly say, pre facelift
Clutch: 2050.Y2 or possibly 2052.J1 clutch plate is 2055 Z4 - clutch kit is 2050 S9 - exch clutch kit is 2051 44(replaced by 2051 T2)
Front break discs: 4246T6 4246 R7 ( replaced by 4249 J1 )
Drive shaft bearing: 324703 correct
Rear anti-roll bar suspension bush: 517243 / 5172.43 correct
Front Wishbone Rear Bush: 352361 **


** that part number relates to number 7 on this schematic - if that's the one your after then also correct
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Wow.

Thanks Plod.
I wasn't expecting that.

Yes, number 7 in the diagram is the part I was referring to.

Is that part pretty much universal across the 406 range?

Thanks again mate.

Oh, one other thing I forgot to ask is about the ABS ring on a rear wheel bearing kit.
Could you tell me if I should be buying one that has 29 teeth on the ring?
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I believe all D8's have 29 teeth, before being changed on the D9's
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Great stuff.

Thanks Plod.

I'll try and do a step by step of my progress when start the jobs that I want to do on the car.

The clutch will be something I'll leave to the mechanics around the corner as they will have everything they need to get it done more quickly than I could.

The drive shafts aren't going to be to bad I don't think.
The only issue I need to sort are whether I should buy new or used parts as the CV joints for them are just over half as much as some new drive shafts are complete.
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No worries - happy to help 8)
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Hi Plod,

On the schematic you have provided, could you tell me the part name and no. for item number 10.

I'm having a look around and noticed it is very much like a track rod end but seems, based on what i've seen, to screw in.

Also, what are the chances of the ABS reluctor rings being damaged, or just needing to be replaced, as i have seen two types that are both for the 29 teeth variant.
The first is an 86mm ring and the other is a 90mm.
I have no clue as to which mine would be and whether it would be worth replacing as a precautionary measure.
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10 is 3640 71 Ball Joint Susp

Bit late for work to check on the ABS rings - maybe later
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Thanks buddy,

I'm in no rush as i still have to buy a few things here and there which i won't have time for until next Tuesday.
Even then it'll be a case of what the weather has in store so with any luck it'll be a nice warm sunny day when i start on it.

Thanks again mate.
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Re: Part numbers and some advice needed.

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If you are planning to replace the driveshafts and you are having the clutch replaced by a garage.....

Firstly get a proper diagnosis of the fault before replacing any driveshafts, then if you are still intent on replacing the driveshafts leave it until the clutch is being replaced as the driveshafts will be removed by the garage to change the clutch....all you need to do is give the new driveshafts to the garage and ask them to fit them when they are rebuilding everything.

Get some new driveshaft oil seals as well.
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