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Front suspension noise (not the usual knock)

Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2014 8:59 am
by gumby6371
So I did the top mount change at the weekend and threw a new drop link on while I was at it. The dunk, dunk, dunk while turning has now gone and she self centres nice and smoothly again :D
Unfortunately there is still an annoying squeaky noise (technical term) over the lumps and bumps.
I noticed the top spring cup (no idea of the correct name) had quite a lot of surface rust when I was doing the mount so I cleaned up the face the bearing sat in but didn't wire brush the spring side as it was on the spring pretty firmly and I was a bit twitchy about persuading it while the spring compressors were on.
Is that likely to cause a squeak? I'm (fairly) confident the spring is flush against the stops in the top and bottom cups.
My other thought was ARB bushes but it only seems to come from the top of the drivers side and I assume you'd hear a squeak from both sides and lower down?

Re: Front suspension noise (not the usual knock)

Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2014 11:23 am
by PeterN
Can you induce the squeak by bouncing it, does it go away in wet weather?

Peter

Re: Front suspension noise (not the usual knock)

Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2014 12:32 pm
by gumby6371
Yes it makes the noise when you bounce it but the passenger side is fine.

Re: Front suspension noise (not the usual knock)

Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2014 1:00 pm
by PeterN
If it stops doing it in the wet it will be a rubber bush, if you can find out which one you can probably squirt a rubber friendly liquid on to it.

Peter

Re: Front suspension noise (not the usual knock)

Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2014 1:29 pm
by gumby6371
Thanks Peter,
I assume CV grease is safe to use?

Re: Front suspension noise (not the usual knock)

Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2014 1:42 pm
by PeterN
I think brake fluid would be better.

Peter

Re: Front suspension noise (not the usual knock)

Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2014 12:42 am
by dirtydirtydiesel
You could always use red rubber grease

Re: Front suspension noise (not the usual knock)

Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2014 9:48 am
by gumby6371
Thankd for the responses gents but I am slightly concerned that red rubber grease may only be available via mail order and arrives in plain brown packaging DDD :cheesy:

Re: Front suspension noise (not the usual knock)

Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2014 12:04 pm
by gumby6371
Quick update - I stripped the suspension down again yesterday and completely disassembled the strut. Much wire brushing of rusty bits and greasing of rubber bits later guess what....it still makes the noise!!!!
Maybe a little less squeaking but still very annoying :evil:

Everything looks good as far as the bits visible in the wheel arch go and I gave it everything a tweek with my pinch bar to check the stuff that should move did and the other stuff didn't.
Pretty sure that only leave ARB bushes so I'll pick some up and cross my fingers.

Presumably it's;
undo drop links to remove tension from ARB
undo bush clamp (stop it!)
remove bush (now you're just being childish!)
fit new bush (OK, it is a bit funny)
refit clamp
re-attach drop links

Did I miss anything?

Re: Front suspension noise (not the usual knock)

Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2014 11:42 pm
by dirtydirtydiesel
Yeah! to smear the bush with red rubber grease :supafrisk: OH Matron :lol:

Re: Front suspension noise (not the usual knock)

Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2014 1:17 pm
by gumby6371
I've just tried to order some from a 'specialist' web site but apparantly their stock has been wiped out by some guy from a french car owners club!!! :wink:

Re: Front suspension noise (not the usual knock)

Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2014 6:56 pm
by dirtydirtydiesel
No seriously gumby,
Look up Castrol or Millers ect red rubber grease it stops the rubber from perishing, it was developed for brake assembly

Re: Front suspension noise (not the usual knock)

Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2014 12:17 pm
by gumby6371
I did see it mate, new ARB bushes have been ordered through ECP and should be here by the weekend and I'll grease them up before fitting. I'll pick up new fuel and oil filters and give it a mini service while she's up on the ramps.
When it's all done I'll get the tracking checked and hopefully that will be the front end sorted and it's back to tracking down cabin squeaks and rattles!