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i know this topic has been up before but can sum1 just explain to me what i need and how to do it, do i need a new indicator stalk with front fogs or can i put it on a switch i would rather keep the way it is originally ,

ive got the lights and the holes are allready there in the bumper

The Pug way has a different stalk working a relay in the engine fusebox.

I prefer your idea of a separate switch - at least that way you can use the rear one on its own and avoid pi$$ing off other road users pointlessly with the front 'decorations'. [/rant]

I'm looking at switching something, either in the stalk control or the relay setup so that my rears come on first.

Bloody stupid design having the front on first.

Change it to a switch on the dash, thats what I'll do with mine when I get some fogs.

some may call them a decoration i find them very useful for driving on ice they show it up much better

406executiveHDI wrote:some may call them a decoration i find them very useful for driving on ice they show it up much better

I took mine off in the same water pit i lost my number plate in, they are just sat in the shed now waiting for some motivation

in a big 4x4 the fogs need to be mounted high up on the roof, so that they go further. Heres an example of a bit of nightime light on my suzuki:

In the darkness this is what it looks like when its driving towards you:

It needs more light i think the top lights are good at lighting up the dash but useless at 10 meters away, and yes im aware only one sidelight is working, now though thats fixed theres no sidelights there

406executiveHDI wrote:some may call them a decoration i find them very useful for driving on ice they show it up much better

Totally agree with you.

I know it's cold over there but.......

DiscoPol wrote:[I took mine off in the same water pit i lost my ??????? in, they are just sat in the shed now waiting for some motivation

Ahh, the toppic for me. I recently bought a pair and now i am gathering info on retrofiting them. If yours is a D8 then there are 2 different scenatios.

1. The front fogs are started from a button under the steering wheel. In that case you will need the button and the rellay which is also under the steering wheel.
2. The front fogs are started from the indicator stalk. In this case you will need to change dhe stalk with one from a car that had front fogs. Ofcourse add the rellay and 2 fuses in the engine fuse box (see haynes )


This is my central console, the switch is for rear fogs.

This is where the button should be in scenario one, under the steering wheel. All cables should be pre-installed.


My facia plate had to be changed too with the one shown in the car manual. You can see the connector for the button, the free white one.