Cruise Control Help!

Talk about the 406's electrical system, what wires do what, how to add extra functionality, etc.

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Cruise Control Help!

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In need of some help here.

I'm doing a deal with a member on here who has a 2002 GLX HDI 110 Automatic which has cruise control.

I don't have cruise control on my 2000 LX 110 Manual. Now the chap would like cruise control on my car as part of the deal. So we have 2 cars, one with and one without.........It's a case of swapping the cruise control over from his car to my car.............How easy is this and what is involved?

Any help would be great :wink:
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Cruise control on a HDi consists of additional switches / wiring on brake & clutch pedals, plus dash controls AND getting it enabled in the BSI. Unfortunately, the 2002 car has a completely different cruise control stalk, (part of the COM2000 unit), which includes the on/off switch. Earlier cars have the on/off switch on the dash, next to the headlight height adjuster and a stalk which is separate to everything else. Wiring would need adding too. There is no actuator as such, the function exists within the engine ecu at least from about 2001. The 2000 ecu may not support it either.
2002 HDi 2.2 Exec Estate, (2008-12) (wonderful)
2003 HDi 2.2 6-speed Exec Estate (2012-19) (also a gem)
2009 Citroen C5 2.0 HDi VTR+ Estate (godawful heap)
2008 BMW E91 330i touring (great fun - murdered by a reversing SUV)
2007 BMW E91 325i touring (slower smoother quieter)
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Oh.......Does not sound the easiest of tasks then :(


Are there aftermarket kits that can be bought for say my car?
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Oh yes, you'll need to donate a kidney of course...
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Worth having a search on here - I think at least two people have done it, but I think they got the whole shooting match from a car in a scrappy with the relevant bits & liberated the lot including BSI, locks, keys etc., then got it enabled. (but I could have confused a detail or two).

Wish I could remember who. :oops:
2002 HDi 2.2 Exec Estate, (2008-12) (wonderful)
2003 HDi 2.2 6-speed Exec Estate (2012-19) (also a gem)
2009 Citroen C5 2.0 HDi VTR+ Estate (godawful heap)
2008 BMW E91 330i touring (great fun - murdered by a reversing SUV)
2007 BMW E91 325i touring (slower smoother quieter)
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This sounds like one big job!!

I think I may give this a miss due to the amount of work required and my lack of upto date knowledge of latest cars :(

Thanks for the helpful replies though guys :D
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wasp wrote:hi all, my 1999 110 hdi now has cruise working! heres the story......
wanted to get blipper locking working- in the 6+ years ive had it its never worked even the stealers couldnt get working or explain why not.
in scrap yard saw a 2001 y reg lx hdi 110 estate (round stalks not later flat type) with blipper key in it.it didnt have cruise control fitted.
bought engine ecu +bsi+key+dash clocks =35 pounds ,engine ecu was bosch and siemens bsi ,same as my existing but with different part no.s
took home , took battery off waited 15 mins and removed old bsi,ecu and clocks.changed blipper and imobliser chip to my existing key blade,swapped ecu,bsi+clocks 20min job,nice and easy.reconnect battery (normal bsi wake up procedure ofc!)
press locking button - hey pressto remote locking - result!! :D
I then realised my leather door cards (previous addition!)cill lights didnt come on so took it an independant peugeot speciaist in Reading,berks (will post this contact if allowed???) who has the dealer laptop- a great guy btw ex peugeot mechanic and very very cheap!.he had previously tried to enable cruise for me before but there were no options for this is the ecu/bsi
he then plugged laptop in and switched on door lights in bsi-
he then noticed cruise in the options list , it was marked as 'absent' so he clicked this, a dropdown list appeared an he selected 'present' also in the engine ecu list he found something called (from memory :() "survient-vitesse" also marked as absent so we guessed vitesse ment speed in french so marked this as present.
worth mentioning at this point that about a year ago i bought a cruise stalk and on/off switch from jameslx on here and plugged this straight into my cars loom to try and get cruise b4, so stalk and on/off switch already fitted.
anyway, drove home got on the motorway in 4 th gear ,turned switch on, CRUISE WORKS!!!! and its great!!!
This proves that 1999 hdi 110 with bosch ecu and siemens bsi at least- is prewired for cruise.
one point to note with the bsi/ecu/speedo swap the mileage changes to that of the donor vehicle- my original mileage was 214,000+ it now reads 132,000 . also my car is an estate and so was the donor car- im guessing if the donor was a saloon the rear wash wipe wouldn't work?
i also got the reg number , vin number and build number from the donor car-i think this is used by peugeot laptop to be able to access the cars electronics.
Searched earlier and found this.

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stealthe wrote:
wasp wrote:hi all, my 1999 110 hdi now has cruise working! heres the story......
wanted to get blipper locking working- in the 6+ years ive had it its never worked even the stealers couldnt get working or explain why not.
in scrap yard saw a 2001 y reg lx hdi 110 estate (round stalks not later flat type) with blipper key in it.it didnt have cruise control fitted.
bought engine ecu +bsi+key+dash clocks =35 pounds ,engine ecu was bosch and siemens bsi ,same as my existing but with different part no.s
took home , took battery off waited 15 mins and removed old bsi,ecu and clocks.changed blipper and imobliser chip to my existing key blade,swapped ecu,bsi+clocks 20min job,nice and easy.reconnect battery (normal bsi wake up procedure ofc!)
press locking button - hey pressto remote locking - result!! :D
I then realised my leather door cards (previous addition!)cill lights didnt come on so took it an independant peugeot speciaist in Reading,berks (will post this contact if allowed???) who has the dealer laptop- a great guy btw ex peugeot mechanic and very very cheap!.he had previously tried to enable cruise for me before but there were no options for this is the ecu/bsi
he then plugged laptop in and switched on door lights in bsi-
he then noticed cruise in the options list , it was marked as 'absent' so he clicked this, a dropdown list appeared an he selected 'present' also in the engine ecu list he found something called (from memory :() "survient-vitesse" also marked as absent so we guessed vitesse ment speed in french so marked this as present.
worth mentioning at this point that about a year ago i bought a cruise stalk and on/off switch from jameslx on here and plugged this straight into my cars loom to try and get cruise b4, so stalk and on/off switch already fitted.
anyway, drove home got on the motorway in 4 th gear ,turned switch on, CRUISE WORKS!!!! and its great!!!
This proves that 1999 hdi 110 with bosch ecu and siemens bsi at least- is prewired for cruise.
one point to note with the bsi/ecu/speedo swap the mileage changes to that of the donor vehicle- my original mileage was 214,000+ it now reads 132,000 . also my car is an estate and so was the donor car- im guessing if the donor was a saloon the rear wash wipe wouldn't work?
i also got the reg number , vin number and build number from the donor car-i think this is used by peugeot laptop to be able to access the cars electronics.
Searched earlier and found this.

stealthe


Thanks mate :wink:
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