12v socket

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Re: 12v socket

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Just in case anybody else wants to do this ...the 12v rear socket from a 407 I'd a direct swap
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As a little extra info, PC USB ports are 1 amp and therefore most after market chargers/adaptors are also 1 amp however many phones and probably some other devices are around 1.5 amp which is why phones take much longer to charge via a usb port than the OEM charger.
This probably explains Dave's problem charging his phone from the car socket and getting the insufficient power message.

Most devices will just charge a bit slower but some may throw their teddy if it's not perfect,I dare to say Apple products will probably do this as I'm convinced the firmware will only accept accesories that cost your left nut and first born child!

Please note I have absolutely no evidence for the last statement regarding Apple other than my hatred of all things Apple and their business model and practises :evil:

As a second note your 1.5 amp phone charger may well pop your 1 amp USB charged device so keep an eye on which one your using as slow charging is much better than 'BANG'
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gumby6371 wrote:As a little extra info, PC USB ports are 1 amp
The USB specification is 500mA for USB1 and USB2, raised to 900mA for USB3. The USB charging specification, which pre-dated USB3 by a short time allows 1.5A, but only while not transmitting data.
Most devices will just charge a bit slower but some may throw their teddy if it's not perfect,I dare to say Apple products will probably do this as I'm convinced the firmware will only accept accesories that cost your left nut and first born child!
Apple were one of the first major companies to use USB for transmitting higher amounts of power, shoving 2A down the wire before the USB Charging Specification was released. Since this is 4 times what a PC port can deliver, they only pull 2A when they've determined that a capable power source is available - as indicated by specific voltages on the data lines. Apple devices will fall back to 500mA of charge current if they can't get the full 2A unless you connect them to a source which claims to deliver 2A but is dodgy. In these instances they'll refuse to charge instead of letting you set fire to something.
As a second note your 1.5 amp phone charger may well pop your 1 amp USB charged device so keep an eye on which one your using as slow charging is much better than 'BANG'
Wrong. It is the device being charged which determines how much power to take. You'll never blow a device rated for 1A by plugging it into a 10A power source, however you WILL blow up a 1A power source if you connect something to it which draws 10A. Current is pulled, not pushed.
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hallsie wrote:ImageImage

Just in case anybody else wants to do this ...the 12v rear socket from a 407 I'd a direct swap
Ohh, nicely done sir! :cheesy: I really hate messing with a car's original wiring so it's nice to keep it "in house".
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The finished article ...no messing with the loom required !
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Nice job. Looks much tidier than the fag lighter.

Must remember to keep you lot out of the back of my 407 :P :lol:

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rwb wrote:Must remember to keep you lot out of the back of my 407 :P :lol:
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that really does look very neat, i can see lots of people doing this mod


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Where in the rear? I thought I'd just have a snoop on Service Box for a part number but all I can see is a fag lighter. However, in the pull-out ashtray thing in the dash I'm seeing a socket as an alternative to the fag lighter that looks similar to the one in the picture :arrowu:

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Btw I take it the socket has no illumination?
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the rear socket on the 407 has the cover over it Steve, Its in the centre console between the seats


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Service Box just shows a lighter there :? http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd19 ... 543086.jpg
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give me 10 minutes i'll go and take a photo :P

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Thats a nice touch - I will be trawling through ebay / breakers soon to have a look-see.

Very neat indeed, and a bonus with the wiring.
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Re: 12v socket

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Really sorry to bump this but does any one know how much these are
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Re: 12v socket

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Part number 8227.64 and around £30!!
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