1998 Peugeot 406 ACC panel has died! Need help fast!

[Sebba92]

Hi there,

I have a 1998 Peugeot 406 2.0 Turbo, and my ACC panel just died.
It has worked fine, the suddenly when i started the car it didn't come on.
I then turned off the ignition, and when i started the car again it came on, this happened a couple of time, increasing in frequency until it wouldn't work at all!
I have tested the panel itself in a friend of mines 406, and it worked fine.
Have searched on google for a solution, but all i can find is about a relay in the BCU, but as far as i have found out the MK1 model doesn't have this. At least i cant find it.
This is becoming a big problem for me, as i live in Norway and it is cold outside and the inside of my windscreen freezes :/

I really hope somone can help me, as i have tried everything except the dealer, and i can not find the problem!
This is really irritating me, because it is really cold outside.......

I have had some problems with the heater blower before, but that was becase there was not much left of the brushes.

Please help!
Sebastian

[steve_earwig]

Hi Sebastian, I think this could possibly be the connections on the back of the ignition switch, if not the switch itself. Take the cowling off and move the wires around where they go into the switch while you have the engine running.

[Sebba92]

I have had a look under there, but haven't tried that yet.
I'll have another look this afternoon, thanks for the tips

[mjb]

Three causes spring to mind:

1. Fuse
2. The plug behind the panel has fallen out. Unlikely if it died with the car stationary.
3. Ignition barrel.

[Sebba92]

Hi, checked the fuse, and replaced it. Didn't help.
Have had a look under the steering wheel, and tried wiggeling on the cables, still nothing.
I had the panel out, and the cable has not fallen out.

So i think the problem lies with the ignition barrel. What can i do with this? Is it someway i can check it without replacing the barrel?
If i have to replace it, where should i get it? Can i buy one at a scrap dealer? Or should i find a new one, maybe on Ebay or somthing?

[Sebba92]

Hia guys.

Thanks for all your help so far.
Have had a look in my car but haven't gotten anywhere

But I did a search on Google, and found this http://www.carkb.com/Uwe/Forum.aspx/peu ... tch-change
Sounds like the problem i have, så i think i will have to replace the switch.

But I could really need some direction on how to remove the old one so i can have a look, and replace it if necceceary.

Another thing, do i have to get a new switch from the dealer? If i get one from another car, then the keys will not work on the doors i suspect

Greetings
Sebba

[steve_earwig]

Do you know which you have? As it says in your link they changed in September 1998, the later switch is all one big expensive piece and no longer available from Peugeot However they still sell the earlier switch (if you cannot find your build code PM me your chassis number and I will find it )

You really need to find if this your problem before you do anything else. unfortunately I have not found instructions for removing the lock so I am hoping someone else who has done this will come forward. I will look on the French forums later but just now I am short of time as my car has its safety test today (eek!)

[Sebba92]

I dont know wich one i have unfortunately :/

It's a 1998 2.0 Turbo, might be the inbetween model, but unsure about the ignition switch.
If i PM you my chassis number can you find it out?

I hope that if i can remove the ingition switch and that i then can see if it is the problem, and mabey fix it without replacing it.

Thanx for the help. I'll PM the cassis number when i come home this afternoon. (If i can find it )

[jasper5]

From memory....slightly dodgy memory at that.....

To remove the ignition switch you put the key in and turn it to position 1 or 2...can't remember which and push in a small pin somewhere on the barrel....this allows you to pull out the switch.

[Sebba92]

Thanks, i'll have a look this afternoon

[Sebba92]

Okey, I just had the ignition switch off. And the barrel itself seems to work fine.
The switch behind it (The white plastic one) where all the cables come in looked fine too, but i couldn't get it open so i don't know how the switch itself inside it looks.

Am i correctly assuming that this is where the problem should be? Because there is no power going through the barrel itself.

BTW jasper5, your memory was correct Position 2, then remove the pin and the bracket thingy holding the wires in place (gold colored) and then it's out.
It wasn't easy tho, but it shouldn't be Putting it back in was worse!

So is it possible to get the switch itself open, without breaking it? And how do i replace it? Cut the cables and connect a new one, or is it possible to get the switch with the cables and just connect it?

And, thanks for all your help! I am a bit stuck, since i couldn't figure out how to check the switch (afraid of breaking it). But you guys are the best! Would newer have gotten this far without you!
I hope i can figure this all out and get it up and running with your help!

Greetings
Sebba

[steve_earwig]

Pm me your chassis number and I'll tell you which you have (hopefully....)

So far I've found .pdf on how to bypass, dismantle and repair the ignition lock on a Xantia, it's a different lock though, and in French...

And today's search term is "neiman", for some reason.

[steve_earwig]

Hmm, the response on the French sites seems to be a general "buy a new one"

Oh, by the way, the later neiman, sorry, ignition lock is still available, it was the one for automatic transmission cars that isn't. Still, at over 200 pounds it may as well not be.

Anyway, let's see if we can a) make sure it is the problem and b) see which one you have, then perhaps one of these kind chaps back in the Untied Kingdom will find one for you in the breaker's...

[Sebba92]

PM sendt

I'll have another look, maybe i can get the switch open, and have a look.
Think i have the early model lock, because i can take out the ignition barrel itself.
Hopefully you can confirm this for me

I'll see if i can post up some photos too when i get the chance.

Sebba

[steve_earwig]

Yep, turns out it's the earlier one. Anyone going near a breaker's soon?

This is the French Xantia .pdf which might give you an idea of what you will be dealing with if you take it to pieces - http://activaclubfrance.free.fr/Entreti ... ration.pdf