Got the fault reading - where are the faults? (AIRBAG)

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Got the fault reading - where are the faults? (AIRBAG)

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Hey!

Finally I got my PP2000 working (great succes!).

The fault reading gave me this result. Does it point to any well-known faults and could the faults have a connection to eachother?
EDIT: And will the fault dissapear, when I fix the problem og should they be cleared with PP2000?
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Re: Got the fault reading - where are the faults? (AIRBAG)

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Try to clear them and see if they return, (they probably will).

Seat belt trigger 2 will be one of the 2-pin connectors under the passenger seat. Try unplugging/re-plugging a few times it will probably work at least for a time. (If it returns you can always remove the plug/socket and join the wires permanently) My preference for this is bootlace ferrules and a screw terminal block - at least you can separate them again if you ever need to remove the seat.

Drivers module trigger is probably the airbag in the center of the steering wheel, (but if anyone else knows better please say). This fault can be part of a COM2000 problem as well. It's also possible, (though unlikely), this one relates to the seat belt retensioner on the driver's seat.
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Re: Got the fault reading - where are the faults? (AIRBAG)

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I have tried to clear them but they return.

I will try that on the passenger seat. Thanks!

Regardig to the driver module trigger it sounds like a tricky thing. Is there any way to troubleshoot it further?
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I think trigger 1 is the blue plug and trigger 2 is the green plug ( or vice versa ) so just saying 'trigger' may be something else...

Don't forget to do the airbag connections when ignition has been OFF for a good 5 mins.. :supafrisk:
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The colors you are refereing to; is it the wire connected to airbag in the steering wheel?

Thank you. I will remember. I would not like to get shot at :wink:
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JensJakob wrote:The colors you are refereing to; is it the wire connected to airbag in the steering wheel?

Thank you. I will remember. I would not like to get shot at :wink:
Yes, if these are not in properly, or there is a break somewhere in the coil then you will get this fault, if it is the comms unit the airbag fault can be fixed for £25 - £30.... 8)

Again, ignition OFF before removing airbag to heck connections...... ( bang......!! )
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But how can I know, where the fault is? I will just be trying without knowing the location?
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Yes, its a French car.... :roll:

Using PP2000, you can go into the airbag ECU and disable them one at a time, clear the fault, re-read the faults and see which one makes the fault stay away when its disabled.

Don't know if this will work or not but seems a shame to have PP2000 and not use it.. :cheesy:
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That sounds advanced. What exactly do you want to disable in the airbag ECU? Maybe I should get to know PP2000 better :)
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JensJakob wrote:That sounds advanced. What exactly do you want to disable in the airbag ECU? Maybe I should get to know PP2000 better :)
There is a list of fitted airbags in the ECU menu, under 'configuration' - its not advanced, just like a checklist - mark airbag as absent, clear fault, read fault, mark airbag as present then onto the next one.....
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I see. Thank you very much for your help. I will try to find the problem tomorrow!
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I say this all the time but I feel I should repeat: please don't use a multimeter to check the airbags for continuity, it can trigger them!
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Thank you for the warning. I will not do that.
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Re: Got the fault reading - where are the faults? (AIRBAG)

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As Doggy said repeatedly plugging/unplugging the under seat connectors is a good start, I did mine to get her through the MoT.
Only lasted 3 days before the light came back on so I'll be fitting the new connector blocks as soon as I get some new tips for my soldering iron. It currently looks like someone used it as a centre punch :oops:
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Re: Got the fault reading - where are the faults? (AIRBAG)

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2 hours of work = no airbag fault. Thank you so much for your help - I really appreciate it!

I fixed the seat tensioner problem by removing the brown plug and reconnected the wires. Done.

I fixed the driver's module trigger problem by removing the airbag from the steering wheel. Then I saw, the orange plug was disconnected. THANK GOD! Then I reconnected the plug and put some dock tape on to keep it connected. Done.

Going to MOT today - hope it will not fail.

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