Replacment Car

neildavies · Post by **neildavies** » Sun Jun 03, 2007 8:24 am

Maybe widen your field a bit to findone. There should be plenty to choose from. I wouldn't say mileage will be a problem. My 52 plate coupe has 77k on the clock, just worn in for a diesel. My old 2.1td saloon had 172k on the clock when I sold it and was tight as anything.

mjb · Post by **mjb** » Sun Jun 03, 2007 10:59 am

It all defines how you define "good". If "good" to you means under 20,000 miles and 4 years old tops, full service history and perfect paintwork then yeah you will struggle to find one under 3 grand.

However if you realise age and mileage ain't an issue for the 406 and "good" means a mechanically sound D8 with working electrics and no sign of fluid leaks under the bonnet along with no untoward sounds, £1000 is all you'll need to find a good one.

jameslxdt · Post by **jameslxdt** » Sun Jun 03, 2007 2:30 pm

xplosiv wrote:Hi,

I just cannot find a good 406 for £3000 or less.

Andy

dont get a D9

if you look hard enough, you could get an immaculate low mileage full history 1999 D8 1.9 td executive for less than £2000, why waste £3000 on a D9 thats going to give you trouble

neildavies · Post by **neildavies** » Sun Jun 03, 2007 2:46 pm

I thought all the D8 diesel executives were 2.1? Never personally seen a 1.9.

jameslxdt · Post by **jameslxdt** » Sun Jun 03, 2007 2:52 pm

ive seen loads in 1.9, you could have any engine in exec in a D8

xplosiv · Post by **xplosiv** » Sun Jun 03, 2007 5:42 pm

HI,

I am not a massive fan of the way the d8 looks. I could get petrol D9. Although my HDi gave me no problems the sort time I had it. If I find an HDi (good one) I plan on getting the Cam belt and crank pulley replaced.

Is there a re-designed lift pump that won't kill it's self? (i was once told that the new lift pumps are worse)?

It all defines how you define "good". If "good" to you means under 20,000 miles and 4 years old tops, full service history and perfect paintwork then yeah you will struggle to find one under 3 grand.

The car that I had was only £2800 and was immaculate paintwork, had 60,000 on the clock with FSH and was a D9, HDi 2.0L (110) LX

Andy

neildavies · Post by **neildavies** » Sun Jun 03, 2007 7:55 pm

Learn something new everyday. Maybe I just assumed that when i saw a diesel exec, it was a 2.1.

xplosiv · Post by **xplosiv** » Sun Jun 03, 2007 9:49 pm

HI,

I have seen a few coupe's few questions: -

Is the 2.0L pertrol (sh*t slow)

and can the coupe take roof bars, as i need to be able to carry two kayak's on the roof ( i am guessing no)

Does the 2.0L petrol drink fuel?

Andy

neildavies · Post by **neildavies** » Sun Jun 03, 2007 10:10 pm

From speaking to other coupe owners, the 2 litre seems ample, may have to work it a bit, but it'll be a shed load cheaper to run than the alternative petrol 3.0 V6. I don't think the 2 litre is particularly greedy on fuel, depends on how you drive it obviously.

I know there are roof bars available for the coupe, but check on availability before you buy if your thinking of it.

STALLED · Post by **STALLED** » Mon Jun 04, 2007 4:59 am

I get around 22-30 mpg in my 2.0 Manual...thats mostly stop start peak hour driving though. Seems to just sip fuel on the freeways.

They aren't anything special off the line but in gear acceleration - they are pretty quick! Best go take one for a spin and see what you think? You do notice the power loss when the air con is on and you have 5 people on board, if you want power, go for a V6 Manual

Joel

Post by **Welly** » Mon Jun 04, 2007 11:50 am

The magic £3,000.00

I've been there many times. It's a funny 'in the middle' price.

The cars of £3,000.00 are still modern enough to attract a buyer and yet for all intents and purposes are reaching the end of there usefull (now much shorter) life.

I wish you luck here fella, if it was me and my money it wouldn't be a D9. A £3K VW/Audi will be old and tired because they are over-priced.

A beemer would make a good choice but in petrol as these never go wrong if serviced regularly.

I hate these JD Power survey's. They should do the survey based on mileage and the number of faults.

Look at when the Skoda Labia won it, I mean it probably is a reasonable car but the old Duffers that buy them are bound to be extremely happy with the lack of faults over their 1900 miles a year but you try doing 40,000 miles a year in one and then fill out the nice JD Power questionnaire over a cup of tea and a nice biscuit.

xplosiv · Post by **xplosiv** » Mon Jun 04, 2007 3:04 pm

Hi,

Why not the good old D9?

I have found one GLX 2000 with 87K and has just had the cam belt done with a full PUG service history, When the car was written-off. I thought right a new car (as the previous 406 took a lot of work to get it up to scratch - New springs, water pump, vacuum valve, egr etc)

I started look with the following criteria: -

1) Must be a diesel as I use the car loads for camping and kayaking (fill the car with very heavy sh*t) a petrol would die and drink fuel.

2) Must be safe (had too many of the brown trouser moments in the 309 (with I am going to die running through ones head)

3) Value for money

Although the Pug’s get a right slating over reliability, I have personally never had an electrical problem (touch wood), that leaves the HDi engine, which is the same unit used in the jaguar, mondeo, fiat’s etc. as for BMW no thanks even if I had all the money in the world, knowing that every other driver passing you is thinking cock (no offensive to BMW drivers )

SO my sort list would be (as I need a big car)

Peugeot 406 D9
Ford mondeo
VW Passat (not a chance for £3000)
Renault – Laguna – (very bad reliability history)

Thanks,

Andy

Post by **Welly** » Mon Jun 04, 2007 3:45 pm

I am sorry fella - you have convinced me, a 406 it is then. You are right actually and it is the main reason I bought my 406 because they represent value, a newish car for a lot less money.

Actually when ever I get to do a proper long stint in the 6 I always love it to bits again.

Sometimes though I ponder on the problems I have had and it clouds my opinions (which I should learn to keep to myself).

Blue406 · Post by **Blue406** » Mon Jun 04, 2007 4:24 pm

Despite its issues, the 406 is a good car, no matter how you look at it.
Every car will have problems as it gets older. The real question is what goes wrong.

And as far as the 406 is concerned (the the D8 aty least) all the major mechanical parts hardly ever go wrong if looked after as one should look after them.

For me personaly, the 406 give me the smile factor. I smile when I see it parked outside, I smile when I drive it and I smile when I walk away from it, always looking back for another glance.

None of my other cars have had this effect.

Post by **DaiRees** » Mon Jun 04, 2007 4:31 pm

Welton wrote:Sometimes though I ponder on the problems I have had and it clouds my opinions (which I should learn to keep to myself).

No no no no NO! Never keep your opinions to yourself Welly me old muckerooney, this is exactly what forums are for

It's important that everyone knows you've got a Friday afternoon car

.

I haven't had a great deal of trouble with mine (only the EGR really) and I would happily recommend a four-oh-six to anyone

. I reckon the technology is getting on a bit and it is nice to drive the wife's brand new focus once in a while (although not for long periods - I like my back to remain in one piece

), but at the end of the day I'm really glad to slip back into my leather clad, air conditioned, cruise controlled bus and waft around the place in unassuming and quite inconspicuous luxury