Help persuade me?

[Gary406]

yep dont do what my buyer did wen i was selling my 1999 T vauxhall vectra sri (i miss that car) 2.0 16v

he came at 8pm in the dark walked round the car saw it was clean cos i'd valleted it that day and said

"i'll buy it mate" i said dont you even want to testdrive it ? he said nah i'll test drive it on my way home

and that was it, he handed £995 over to me and off he went,

luckily for him the car was a minter , i only sold it cos it only did 20mpg

[GeordieBoy]

idont get it mate,
a d9 does brilliant on fuel im getting a good 40mpg round town and i dont drive it like miss daisy,
gets me why people want to run on cooking oil when dervs are brill on the mpg to start with,

What dont you get? Choice is:-
Buy an HDi and PAY £1.329 per litre OR
Buy a 1.9 TD and potentially PAY fook all per litre AND LAUGH your t!ts off at everyone queueing at the petrol stations while you driveby.
Some chippies/restaurants will give you there used oil for free, just filter it. Legally use 2500 litres, if free thats a saving of over £3,000.
Imagine what you can do with that saving. At worst, pay 50p per litre on ebay or something, filter it and still save over £2,000.
OR buy new unused veg oil from the likes of Macro which I think is 95p per litre atm, still a £1,000 saving.
The TD is a much easier engine to work on aswell if/when it develops a problem.
Buy a TD for £1,000 and potentially get that back on fuel savings alone within 4 mths. It really is a no brainer.
Anyone with a 1.9 TD and not using some kind of Veg, really need to get to the doctors for a brain check up.

[Bailes1992]

idont get it mate,
a d9 does brilliant on fuel im getting a good 40mpg round town and i dont drive it like miss daisy,
gets me why people want to run on cooking oil when dervs are brill on the mpg to start with,

What dont you get? Choice is:-
Buy an HDi and PAY £1.329 per litre OR
Buy a 1.9 TD and potentially PAY fook all per litre AND LAUGH your t!ts off at everyone queueing at the petrol stations while you driveby.
Some chippies/restaurants will give you there used oil for free, just filter it. Legally use 2500 litres, if free thats a saving of over £3,000.
Imagine what you can do with that saving. At worst, pay 50p per litre on ebay or something, filter it and still save over £2,000.
OR buy new unused veg oil from the likes of Macro which I think is 95p per litre atm, still a £1,000 saving.
The TD is a much easier engine to work on aswell if/when it develops a problem.
Buy a TD for £1,000 and potentially get that back on fuel savings alone within 4 mths. It really is a no brainer.
Anyone with a 1.9 TD and not using some kind of Veg, really need to get to the doctors for a brain check up.

My 406 did spring a diesel leak running veg oil. But the shelf life for the seals is 10 years anyway, the car is 12 years old so was on borrowed time anyway. Was only a small leak. More liek a weap really.

[GeordieBoy]

My 406 did spring a diesel leak running veg oil. But the shelf life for the seals is 10 years anyway, the car is 12 years old so was on borrowed time anyway. Was only a small leak. More liek a weap really.

My BMW 325TDS had a fuel pump leak aswell, but it was 15 yrs old and 186k on the clock. Cost £200 to have seals replaced.
On a 406 TD, would cost about £50 to replace the whole pump. Small leaks are nothing, aslong as no air is getting in.

[lozz]

idont get it mate,
a d9 does brilliant on fuel im getting a good 40mpg round town and i dont drive it like miss daisy,
gets me why people want to run on cooking oil when dervs are brill on the mpg to start with,

What dont you get? Choice is:-
Buy an HDi and PAY £1.329 per litre OR
Buy a 1.9 TD and potentially PAY fook all per litre AND LAUGH your t!ts off at everyone queueing at the petrol stations while you driveby.
Some chippies/restaurants will give you there used oil for free, just filter it. Legally use 2500 litres, if free thats a saving of over £3,000.
Imagine what you can do with that saving. At worst, pay 50p per litre on ebay or something, filter it and still save over £2,000.
OR buy new unused veg oil from the likes of Macro which I think is 95p per litre atm, still a £1,000 saving.
The TD is a much easier engine to work on aswell if/when it develops a problem.
Buy a TD for £1,000 and potentially get that back on fuel savings alone within 4 mths. It really is a no brainer.
Anyone with a 1.9 TD and not using some kind of Veg, really need to get to the doctors for a brain check up.

isee your point about the veg oil,
but in my case im used to running big thirsty motors about (petrol) some cars ive had have done 12mpg.
iwas running a Ford galaxy ghia about for 3 years it did 16mpg so now after running this puggy hdi its like running a mini compared to the others , im happy with that

[GeordieBoy]

isee your point about the veg oil,
but in my case im used to running big thirsty motors about (petrol) some cars ive had have done 12mpg.
iwas running a Ford galaxy ghia about for 3 years it did 16mpg so now after running this puggy hdi its like running a mini compared to the others , im happy with that

Yep, I also own a BMW 328, its mainly a track/drift car, so it gets spanked alot, with the fuel savings I get to many track days a year.

[FarmerPug]

My hdi does good fuel economy when its drove right. The main advantage with the 110 is that its quicker quieter and smoother than the xud's. As for the insurance actually get quotes before you rule out the cost. I am paying less on my 406 than i was on my clio

[waue1978]

I thought the whole point of getting rid of the 406 was the extortionate insurance costs for you? I'm 32 with 9yrs no claims & it still cost me £425 for my HDi estate this year.

Could I offer an alternative? You miss the diesel (or veg oil) economy of the 406, but the insurance made you plump for the Focus to start with. Why not just get a 306 or Xsara TD? If you can manage with a Focus boot the 306 should be ok, you still get the same engine as the 406 & it's cheap to insure. Plus if you get the Xsara, they're usually owned by careful old boys rather than some gobsh*te that wants to pretend he's got a GTi-6.

Oh, and I think the car in the link you posted may be a 2.1 anyway. Doesn't the 1.9 have the intercooler on top of the engine? Or did they change that at some point?

[Gary406]

its the 2.1 with it over the top mate

[FarmerPug]

i think if your under 25 your going to pay high insurance anyways, except if your a girl they get it slightly cheaper, some are safe drivers, some are not.

[jamjar1383]

I thought the whole point of getting rid of the 406 was the extortionate insurance costs for you? I'm 32 with 9yrs no claims & it still cost me £425 for my HDi estate this year.

Could I offer an alternative? You miss the diesel (or veg oil) economy of the 406, but the insurance made you plump for the Focus to start with. Why not just get a 306 or Xsara TD? If you can manage with a Focus boot the 306 should be ok, you still get the same engine as the 406 & it's cheap to insure. Plus if you get the Xsara, they're usually owned by careful old boys rather than some gobsh*te that wants to pretend he's got a GTi-6.

Oh, and I think the car in the link you posted may be a 2.1 anyway. Doesn't the 1.9 have the intercooler on top of the engine? Or did they change that at some point?

the later xsara td's and the 306's have the lucas pump so it would need the pump changed to a bosch one to run veg oil, as far as insurence goes your paying far to much waue, im 28 2 years no claim's and im paying roughly the same

[GeordieBoy]

Doesn't matter how much the insurance is on a 1.9TD, the fuel saving will easily cover it.

[waue1978]

I thought the whole point of getting rid of the 406 was the extortionate insurance costs for you? I'm 32 with 9yrs no claims & it still cost me £425 for my HDi estate this year.

Could I offer an alternative? You miss the diesel (or veg oil) economy of the 406, but the insurance made you plump for the Focus to start with. Why not just get a 306 or Xsara TD? If you can manage with a Focus boot the 306 should be ok, you still get the same engine as the 406 & it's cheap to insure. Plus if you get the Xsara, they're usually owned by careful old boys rather than some gobsh*te that wants to pretend he's got a GTi-6.

Oh, and I think the car in the link you posted may be a 2.1 anyway. Doesn't the 1.9 have the intercooler on top of the engine? Or did they change that at some point?

the later xsara td's and the 306's have the lucas pump so it would need the pump changed to a bosch one to run veg oil, as far as insurence goes your paying far to much waue, im 28 2 years no claim's and im paying roughly the same

Could be down to the area you live in though. Mine is fully comp with no voluntary excess. Next best after Tesco was Hastings Essential (with no windscreen cover) at £450. Could've left out the windscreen cover & gone for the Tesco Value insurance at £410, but didn't want to chance it.

[jamjar1383]

I thought the whole point of getting rid of the 406 was the extortionate insurance costs for you? I'm 32 with 9yrs no claims & it still cost me £425 for my HDi estate this year.

Could I offer an alternative? You miss the diesel (or veg oil) economy of the 406, but the insurance made you plump for the Focus to start with. Why not just get a 306 or Xsara TD? If you can manage with a Focus boot the 306 should be ok, you still get the same engine as the 406 & it's cheap to insure. Plus if you get the Xsara, they're usually owned by careful old boys rather than some gobsh*te that wants to pretend he's got a GTi-6.

Oh, and I think the car in the link you posted may be a 2.1 anyway. Doesn't the 1.9 have the intercooler on top of the engine? Or did they change that at some point?

the later xsara td's and the 306's have the lucas pump so it would need the pump changed to a bosch one to run veg oil, as far as insurence goes your paying far to much waue, im 28 2 years no claim's and im paying roughly the same

Could be down to the area you live in though. Mine is fully comp with no voluntary excess. Next best after Tesco was Hastings Essential (with no windscreen cover) at £450. Could've left out the windscreen cover & gone for the Tesco Value insurance at £410, but didn't want to chance it.

mabie you should try chriss knott thats who im with

[Gary406]

yup thats which broker i use chris knott

i also use adrien flux and play them off against each other

ring 1 up and tell them i beat your quote can you match it or beat it and genarelly they do beat it,

i made about 4 phone calls to each doing the same back and forth