big problem - no start and electrical problem

Just your normal general chatting in here..

Moderator: Moderators

User avatar
no2lurch
3.0 24v
Posts: 724
Joined: Mon Mar 01, 2010 1:01 am
Location: Cannock, West Mids

Re: big problem - no start and electrical problem

Post by no2lurch »

FarmerPug wrote:thats normal
so the battery is ok then?
Past car - D9 2.2 SRi estate, sleeper, family wagon & general hauler!
Current car - Ph3 1.8 306
User avatar
Gary406
The moderator with a 1.9TD!
Posts: 5315
Joined: Sun Mar 28, 2010 9:56 pm
Location: Wigan, Lancashire

Re: big problem - no start and electrical problem

Post by Gary406 »

is 13.5 normal wen car off ?

i thought it was a 12v battery :? :?
2004 (04) Volkswagen Bora 1.9 TDi (100)
FarmerPug
2.0 HDI 110
Posts: 9656
Joined: Tue Jun 01, 2010 5:42 pm
Location: The Countryside, Northern Ireland
Contact:

Re: big problem - no start and electrical problem

Post by FarmerPug »

multimeters usually read like this, car batteries arent 12v on the spot.
User avatar
Gary406
The moderator with a 1.9TD!
Posts: 5315
Joined: Sun Mar 28, 2010 9:56 pm
Location: Wigan, Lancashire

Re: big problem - no start and electrical problem

Post by Gary406 »

i know but 13.5 seems high

maybe wrong tho 8)
2004 (04) Volkswagen Bora 1.9 TDi (100)
FarmerPug
2.0 HDI 110
Posts: 9656
Joined: Tue Jun 01, 2010 5:42 pm
Location: The Countryside, Northern Ireland
Contact:

Re: big problem - no start and electrical problem

Post by FarmerPug »

i think its that high on a new battery, usually under 12v for an old one
User avatar
no2lurch
3.0 24v
Posts: 724
Joined: Mon Mar 01, 2010 1:01 am
Location: Cannock, West Mids

Re: big problem - no start and electrical problem

Post by no2lurch »

More updates- had to drive home on side lochs and fog lights. It seemed that when load is put on, it kills it. And it seemed worse when the engine was cold, before warming up.
Past car - D9 2.2 SRi estate, sleeper, family wagon & general hauler!
Current car - Ph3 1.8 306
User avatar
Gary406
The moderator with a 1.9TD!
Posts: 5315
Joined: Sun Mar 28, 2010 9:56 pm
Location: Wigan, Lancashire

Re: big problem - no start and electrical problem

Post by Gary406 »

is it a new battery ? have you tried a different battery on the car yet ?
2004 (04) Volkswagen Bora 1.9 TDi (100)
User avatar
no2lurch
3.0 24v
Posts: 724
Joined: Mon Mar 01, 2010 1:01 am
Location: Cannock, West Mids

Re: big problem - no start and electrical problem

Post by no2lurch »

Gary406 wrote:is it a new battery ? have you tried a different battery on the car yet ?
not yet.

I just thought... When we had the snow, someone said my headlights flickered as I was skidding on the ice in the car park. Could this be linked to the brake faults I'm seeing now? What controls the abs?
Past car - D9 2.2 SRi estate, sleeper, family wagon & general hauler!
Current car - Ph3 1.8 306
User avatar
steve_earwig
Moderator
Posts: 19813
Joined: Thu Oct 04, 2007 6:09 pm
Location: Jastrebarsko, Croatia http://www.jastrebarsko.hr/lokacija/

Re: big problem - no start and electrical problem

Post by steve_earwig »

no2lurch wrote:What controls the abs?
The ABS ecu (on the front of the unit)
no2lurch wrote:It seemed that when load is put on, it kills it.
That sounds so much like a poor connection somewhere - the more current that tries to pass it, the more voltage it'll drop out of the system, it'll get warm too. These days I don't think anything's that simple but you could check - if you have a multimeter you could try and see what the voltage is like elsewhere on the car, like the cabin fuse panel for eggsarmpull.
Unskilled meddling sin©e 2007

The submitted form was invalid. Try submitting again.
User avatar
no2lurch
3.0 24v
Posts: 724
Joined: Mon Mar 01, 2010 1:01 am
Location: Cannock, West Mids

Re: big problem - no start and electrical problem

Post by no2lurch »

Got home and took the hids out. Also took apart the three plugs under the drivers footwell carpet and they are all dry and clean- I gave them all a quick spray with wd for good measure. Also removed and sprayed all three plugs on the ecu.

Tried to start it and no change!

After a few mins of trying it started. Drove it up the road and all was well. Eml still on tho.

Pulled over and turned off. Restarted fine. Eml still on.

Drove further and pulled over again. Put everything electrical on and after a few secs, it died. Total electrical shutdown as before. Turned everything off and it restarted ok. Did the load test again with less load on and it was ok. I did notice a wisp of what looked like smoke coming from the front corner by the battery lid. Turned everything off and had another look but couldn't find anything. No visible burning or anything really hot. Restarted and the car cut out as I pulled off but drove fine after resstarting. Eml still on.

Got it home and tried the load test again and it died. It now won't start again and the electrics have gone tits up again!

The connections to the battery seem both ok.

Where else should I be checking?
Past car - D9 2.2 SRi estate, sleeper, family wagon & general hauler!
Current car - Ph3 1.8 306
User avatar
Gary406
The moderator with a 1.9TD!
Posts: 5315
Joined: Sun Mar 28, 2010 9:56 pm
Location: Wigan, Lancashire

Re: big problem - no start and electrical problem

Post by Gary406 »

if you saw smoke under the bonnet near the battery you need to urgently find out were it came from :shock:
2004 (04) Volkswagen Bora 1.9 TDi (100)
User avatar
no2lurch
3.0 24v
Posts: 724
Joined: Mon Mar 01, 2010 1:01 am
Location: Cannock, West Mids

Re: big problem - no start and electrical problem

Post by no2lurch »

It was only a tad. Couldn't smell any real burning.
Past car - D9 2.2 SRi estate, sleeper, family wagon & general hauler!
Current car - Ph3 1.8 306
User avatar
no2lurch
3.0 24v
Posts: 724
Joined: Mon Mar 01, 2010 1:01 am
Location: Cannock, West Mids

Re: big problem - no start and electrical problem

Post by no2lurch »

Qhen I turn the ignition on now, I just hear a bleep and a load of clicking!
Past car - D9 2.2 SRi estate, sleeper, family wagon & general hauler!
Current car - Ph3 1.8 306
User avatar
jamjar1383
3.0 24v
Posts: 542
Joined: Sun Mar 02, 2008 7:24 pm
Location: llanelli, south wales

Re: big problem - no start and electrical problem

Post by jamjar1383 »

sound to me like a bad battery or a bad earth, try putting a jump lead from the - post on the battery to somewhere on the metal on the engine ie. the bracket that holds the power steering pump, see if that helps
d9 hdi 90 rapier estate

"Understeer" is when you hit the fence with the front of the car.
"Oversteer" is when you hit the fence with the rear of the car.
"Horsepower" is how fast you hit the fence.
"Torque" is how far you take the fence with you.
User avatar
steve_earwig
Moderator
Posts: 19813
Joined: Thu Oct 04, 2007 6:09 pm
Location: Jastrebarsko, Croatia http://www.jastrebarsko.hr/lokacija/

Re: big problem - no start and electrical problem

Post by steve_earwig »

Gary406 wrote:if you saw smoke under the bonnet near the battery you need to urgently find out were it came from :shock:
Reminds me of what Tatsfield said over on the coupé club about there being a junction box under the battery tray.
Unskilled meddling sin©e 2007

The submitted form was invalid. Try submitting again.
Post Reply