Door Draught Excluder

[FarmerPug]

Laminate? I thought this was a shed not a gentlemen's drinking establishment

its moving upmarket, the humidor is working fine but the drinks cabinet is a bit hard to open.
but bar the fact theres no internet it makes a great office, although with that nip in the air it was a bit cold inside, mind the government were putting some sort of insulation in peoples houses for free how much is that if your paying and is it any good?

[steve_earwig]

Are you confusing me with the government? Oh, I see. No idea and it can only help.

I guess this means that you've put this shed together and panelled the inside without putting any form of insulation behind it. Oops. Perhaps you could get some cavity wall insulation injected in there

Btw my dad was telling me the original cavity wall insulation turns out to decay eventually and seep out of the walls. Nice.

I suppose you're going to need to heat your shed. Where I am everyone burns wood (which is, insanely enough, carbon neutral) so I'd be sticking a small wood burner in the corner, chimney through the roof and a coffee pot on top on the boil...

Here's mine:








Christ, that's almost 2 years ago now

[FarmerPug]

yup paneled but no insulation starting to regret that but the panels are screwed in place so its not impossible to get access just injected foam would save all that bother.
one of them stoves would be great my dad recently put one in the house, they are not cheap especially the flue piping but there is something nice about a fire and the smell of turf burning.
ah well there is still the trusty superser.

[steve_earwig]

Of course, I'd forgot you were in that part of the world - I've never smelt a turf burner myself. I've been burning beech, which is one of the better woods for burning as it has a lot of energy in it but doesn't produce much ash, unlike oak. It used to be part of my old roof which I'd saved for future construction plans but it turned out that none of it is straight or square.

Careful with the gas fire - now you've completely sealed your shed against insect invasion you might run out of air...

[Welly]

Expanding foam filler is a fantastic insulator as it sets into millions of trapped bubbles of air, perfect! it's a bit pricey but I bet you could soon fill most of the cavities from the inside of the shed.

You'd just have to watch it doesn't try 'growing' out of any external gaps and it may impose on your wiring, switches and sockets..........and it is highly flammable

[FarmerPug]

you havent smelt turf, its one of the nicest smelling smokes about not many people burn it round here but in parts of donegal theres nothing but the smell of turf fires. as a fuel though it burns away too quickly some chopped up apple trees does well.
expanding foam would be good i see pig houses get lined in the stuff but buying it by the can would be very expensive

[FarmerPug]

I got the Super Ser, put it into the shed and lit it up, it made a flame then a sound like a fart and spluttered off, the gas was empty.
£25 it cost for a fill of gas , the last time i got a tank it was £15. I wonder does car gas work in these.
Anyhow it heats the place up very well even on 1 bar, if there was insulation the shed would be too warm.

[Welly]

Is that safe in a confined space?, you've already been a bit handy with the mastic gun so I'm assuming it's fairly air-tight in the shed. The products of combustion could be harmful to you if there's no ventilation.

To me there's only a couple of effective heaters for you and that would be a gas appliance with a balanced flue, or a gas appliance with flue + ventilation (not great as it will get cold in there) or an electric oil-filled heater.

[FarmerPug]

it did heat up quickly but there wasnt a problem with the air i opened the windows to bring air in.
do these things need a carbon monoxide alarm

[steve_earwig]

it did heat up quickly but there wasnt a problem with the air i opened the windows to bring air in.

But doesn't that... never mind

do these things need a carbon monoxide alarm

Not at all, although if you feel the urge to lie on the floor and turn blue then there might be a tiny bit of a problem...

Double post
Holy ghost
Cheese on toast
Sunday roast.

[FarmerPug]

it may let some heat out but overall the heater produces more heat than the windows let out they only get opened to the
second latch.
the last shed was a 6x8 ft shed and the superser never had problems in it

but the new floor and insect powder has worked havent seen a single slater earwig or spider.

[Welly]

I thinks it's more about the appliance 'using up' the oxygen available and leaving you short. Being bottled gas it may be within the maximum allowance without ventilation (we don't need ventilation for a 4-ring cooker, I believe it's linked to KW output overall). Whatever fuel you burn will give off products of combustion like NO, CO, HC's etc in some measure.

[FarmerPug]

thats a carbon monoxide alarm ordered, i about vents should i add a pair just to be sure, should they be mounted at floor or ceiling height, im thinking floor height being cold will have a better chance of drawing in air than something up in the warm air.

[Welly]

If it was me I'd have a vent at low level and high level on opposite sides of the 'room' to aid air-changes. The appliance will also give out some condensation, not much, but I wouldn't be that happy spending time sitting in a shed with that thing going full-chat.

*this advice is not "the law" you should get professional advice about gas safety, I have suggested you need ventilation but I am by no means a qualified gas engineer. Take it from me we'd all hate to learn of you being found slumped over a chair clutching a soldering iron and a wiring diagram for a 2003 BSi unit on a winter's night.....

[FarmerPug]

If it was me I'd have a vent at low level and high level on opposite sides of the 'room' to aid air-changes. The appliance will also give out some condensation, not much, but I wouldn't be that happy spending time sitting in a shed with that thing going full-chat.

*this advice is not "the law" you should get professional advice about gas safety, I have suggested you need ventilation but I am by no means a qualified gas engineer. Take it from me we'd all hate to learn of you being found slumped over a chair clutching a soldering iron and a wiring diagram for a 2003 BSi unit on a winter's night.....

thanks for the advice, but your right with this thing going full tilt sitting in the shed is unbearable.
some condensation did occur round the windows