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I'd imagine so :shock:

Hmmm, something about them only coming with automatic gearboxes? I suppose that depends how good the 'box is...
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xactly. :cry:

somehow c5.oc.co.uk just doesn't sound right......
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dogslife wrote:
steve_earwig wrote:I note with interest the 2.2 HDi is now 190 horses :twisted:
Yes, yes, but can you get one with a gearbox?

Doggy, look! They've been paying attention! :lol:

All new Peugeots are so popular in China now.. they buy them by the bucketload. I guess that's why there are some things we don't like about them such as wonky front end styling (Again.. thanks Peugeot :/).
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Saw my first 508 today.
Actually looks better for real than in the marketing material; if a little too much like a consignia

I hadn't noticed the notches in the sides of the bonnet before -- a bit Volvo-ish.

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dogslife wrote:xactly. :cry:

somehow c5.oc.co.uk just doesn't sound right......
Sounds ok to me :cheesy: :cheesy:
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Don't get too content there, Disco - did you know you can't get a (Sinclair)X sorry, C5 estate with our beloved DW12 engine anymore? :cry:

The choice is now DT17 (1.6 HDi which only vaguely threatens a rice pudding skin on overboost). :roll:
DW10 (2.0 HDi, but with a more respectable 160 bhp).
DV6 (3.0 HDi, 240 horses, but - you've guessed it - BVM? Non!).

The bl00dy infuriating thing is the DW12 is now 200 bhp, but you can't get it in an estate, (Pug or Cistern) & when you do get it in another body style, you can't get a manual.

I think we should, 'pay dem a visit'. Maybe introduce their market analysts to Mme. la Guillotine.....
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is it possible that only applies to the RHD market? im sure they are still offering the 2.2 over here :?
i could be wrong, its all Polish to me :oops:
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According to the review in The Register, the 508 mini-hybrid gets 64.2mpg!

http://www.reghardware.com/2011/06/15/r ... ive_e_hdi/
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I've seen two of these a month ago - demo cars. I liked them... but the front looks like a Laguna and the back looks like an Avensis....
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Thread resurrection, sorry, but...
http://www.peugeot.co.uk/vehicles/peuge ... t-508-rxh/

Peugeot are making a 4x4 version of the 508, called the 508 RXH. Looks to be powered by a 2 litre Hybrid4 diesel-electric engine, providing up to 200 HP between the electric motors and the HDi engine combined.

Come on Peugeot, where's the Coupe version?
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Urgh, what's with these hybrids. Are they even fun to drive?
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I like the idea of a hybrid where the petrol/diesel engine is working one axle and the electric motors are working the other.

I've never driven a hybrid - I've never even driven an HDi - but I reckon the extra torque in this one would be pretty nice.

I would love to see a petrol V6 Coupe (or a 4 cylinder turbo) with electric motors on the rears.
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How do you synchronise it all? Sounds to me like something to go horribly wrong - especially in a French car! Imagine if they accidentally reversed polarity to the motor :lol: Wonder which one would win...
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I don't think you need to synchronise it that much, it's not like the two engines are geared together. As you say though, it's still a lot more teknolledgy to go bang.

There's nothing about it on Service Box yet, although the Allroad version seems to have disappeared - perhaps this is it what they're going to call it now they realised VAG would be suing them...

I presume the laughably small carrying capacity tells us where the batteries hang out.

200 BHP sounds good but it's still got to lug batteries around and I doubt the motor is weightless.The best of both worlds perhaps, more like the worst... At least a family trip to the seaside won't take 3 days each way nor necessitate finding 2 hotels that'll let you plug your car in overnight.
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im suprised its took this long to bring out petrol hybirds are not really as good as conventional diesels but a hybird diesel should be great for fuel economy they are using it on a 2 litre for now but in a few years if they make something like a 1.4 hdi hybird in say the 208 then 100mpg should be a realistic mpg figure.
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