Weedy HDi 90

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Weedy HDi 90

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I've been visiting Yorkshire over Christmas, where there are proper hills. I live in Berkshire which is essentially flat.

It's been really hard work dragging my 406 up all these hills with only 90 hp, and a rev range of little more than 1,500prm.
And with all the short journeys I'll be lucky to average 45mpg.
This starts to make petrol look sensible :shock:

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Yeah I know what you mean. Since I've switched from long motorway commutes into Belfast to driving hilly country backroads again my fuel economy has suffered. I had an average of 50.4mpg for a long time and this has now dropped to 44.8mpg :shock: The short rev range doesn't help, I'm hoping a remap will improve this :)
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I live in east yorkshire and there proper hills here. You need a more relaxed approach when driving up here.

5th gear 45 mph. Just chug up the hills like i do. And sod the people in the great long queue behind. And on weekends in the summer its really busy round here with holiday traffic so i go a little slower. (Hoping the city folk won't come back next year) :D
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Sounds like you could use an ECU remap. You ought to get up to 110 HP out of it, with an extra 40 ft/lbs of torque thrown in to boot. And your fuel economy could well improve as well.

Shop around for diesel remap specialists in your area; you could potentially get a remap for as little as £200, but it will definitely make your car feel more sprightly, and it will tackle hills better.
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110 bhp isnt always enough i want mine remapped after the solid flywheel conversion, but just remember the wheight of the 406, its about one of the heaviest in its class.
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another good idea mabie the same as im planning to do to my 90 before i have it re-mapped, fit the intercooler from the 110, get rid if the egr, and the cat
im hoping to see arund130bhp when thats lots done
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"Torque" is how far you take the fence with you.
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a remapped 110 usually hits about 136 bhp. But how does people remap 90bhp golfs up to 200bhp or are they just bullshitting.
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FarmerPug wrote:a remapped 110 usually hits about 136 bhp. But how does people remap 90bhp golfs up to 200bhp or are they just bullshitting.
beacuse they add things like stirght through exhaust's,bigger injectors, massive intercoolers, de-egr ect.
basically spending loads of money. the only non 406 part im gonna use is the new map but if i wanted to see 200bhp i could add bmw 330d injectors and a stupid loud exhaust and other expensive parts, all i want is to see the same power as the 2.2 hdi and im happy
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"Understeer" is when you hit the fence with the front of the car.
"Oversteer" is when you hit the fence with the rear of the car.
"Horsepower" is how fast you hit the fence.
"Torque" is how far you take the fence with you.
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but does a remapped 2.0 hdi not make a non remapped 2.2 seem pointless.
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FarmerPug wrote:but does a remapped 2.0 hdi not make a non remapped 2.2 seem pointless.
mabie so but i culdnt afford a 2.2 so i bought the only one i could afford, plus i knw peple in the trade so the remap will be fairly cheap anyway as i will only pay trade price
d9 hdi 90 rapier estate

"Understeer" is when you hit the fence with the front of the car.
"Oversteer" is when you hit the fence with the rear of the car.
"Horsepower" is how fast you hit the fence.
"Torque" is how far you take the fence with you.
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jamjar1383 wrote:
FarmerPug wrote:a remapped 110 usually hits about 136 bhp. But how does people remap 90bhp golfs up to 200bhp or are they just bullshitting.
beacuse they add things like stirght through exhaust's,bigger injectors, massive intercoolers, de-egr ect.
basically spending loads of money. the only non 406 part im gonna use is the new map but if i wanted to see 200bhp i could add bmw 330d injectors and a stupid loud exhaust and other expensive parts, all i want is to see the same power as the 2.2 hdi and im happy
Mine is 140bhp and that was before I decatted it and fitted the powerflow exhaust

So yes, i'd agree, keep it sensible in aiming for around the 140 figure
Also, i've had no clutch issues, which past 140, i'm sure plays a part
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i know id need a solid flywheel before i upped the power, it sqeaks bad enough as it is.
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jamjar1383 wrote: i knw peple in the trade so the remap will be fairly cheap anyway as i will only pay trade price
I have a mate of mine who can get mine remapped "again" for 100 euros
semi tempted as i have had the cat removed and stainless fitted since original remap, but at same time still happy with the performance i've got
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plod wrote:
jamjar1383 wrote:
FarmerPug wrote:a remapped 110 usually hits about 136 bhp. But how does people remap 90bhp golfs up to 200bhp or are they just bullshitting.
beacuse they add things like stirght through exhaust's,bigger injectors, massive intercoolers, de-egr ect.
basically spending loads of money. the only non 406 part im gonna use is the new map but if i wanted to see 200bhp i could add bmw 330d injectors and a stupid loud exhaust and other expensive parts, all i want is to see the same power as the 2.2 hdi and im happy
Mine is 140bhp and that was before I decatted it and fitted the powerflow exhaust

So yes, i'd agree, keep it sensible in aiming for around the 140 figure
Also, i've had no clutch issues, which past 140, i'm sure plays a part
i shouldnt have any clutch issues as i have a 90 with a solid flywheel but if i was to surpass the 130bhp im aiming for i'd be really happy
d9 hdi 90 rapier estate

"Understeer" is when you hit the fence with the front of the car.
"Oversteer" is when you hit the fence with the rear of the car.
"Horsepower" is how fast you hit the fence.
"Torque" is how far you take the fence with you.
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Remap & de-FAP on my 2.2 didn't actually cost anything. :cheesy:
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