Quick Service now oil leak

[FarmerPug]

I gave the engine the quick service it needed, its been about a year and probably 10k miles since i last did the oil and filters. So i got a new fuel filter, oil filter, air filter and oil, didnt get the pollen filter because its ok. It all cost £45 although because i didnt know which fuel filter the shop gave me both so i can refund the one i didnt need.
Heres the old and new air filters:


Just something about the fuel filter i got a bag of bits:

the instructions are just pictures no writing so i still dont undersand what these bits are for, and a seal also came, the picture just shows it sitting round the filter which is absurd, so i put it round the thread of the cap but its not doing anything there either, what way does it go on, and if i hadnt got one on before do i need it now?

Also the oil, i didnt change the copper washer i just cleaned it, i have a box of tool zone washers i got last week but nothing matched the old washer which was new last year.
And i checked the dipstick the oil is black after a bit of a drive, but at a good spot on the dipstick is this ok.

[iangt4]

hi m8,

the fuel filter items are to stop the diesel draining back when you remove the old filter to aid restarting, there meant to be removed on reassembly the gasket sits on the top of the fuel filter housing, you remove the old one (pick at the top of the housing you will feel it) and it will all become obvious where it lives

[FarmerPug]

my problem with my servicing seems to be the oil, i think initially i had a leak because i put cardboard under the car, but my dad said that was just the oil i spilt (strut brace is to blame) which also fecked up the cleaning i did, so i did another powerhose of the engine to clean it, then sprayed on the 3in1 to stop it rusting then got under the car and cleaned the sump, ac pump and filter housing with a cloth its all clean now so hopefully no leaks.

[FarmerPug]

i have a leak
the oils coming out the sump plug, must really need to be changed every time.
since its in the car i cant just pop it out to check the size without all the new oil going down the drain, what is the recommended size of copper washer?

[FarmerPug]

I had to get chicken wire in BnQ so i stopped off at the peugeot dealer (first time actually) it was a bit of a ghost town, apart from about 6 members of staff sitting at desks on computers i didnt see a single customer, i went down to the service desk where there was a woman glued to the computer, she didnt look or speak, i said hello and the silence continued. An old man then came through the door, and did the big hello well bout ye thing, so i explained what i needed, he looked at my car and the vin number, said they dont make them like the 406 any more, then he went to the computer typed the vin in, and went behind the door and come back with the washer £1.79 it was.
so i have the car parked 2 wheels up on the kerb waiting for the oil to cool before i attempt to change the waher.

I also had a nosy around a new 508, they seem to be a nice big car, they look much better in the metal, although i asked the salesman if he had any executive type model like my 406 to compare against but there wasnt only fairly basic 1.6's, the rest of them havent arrived yet.

[FarmerPug]

I parked the car 2 wheels up on kerbs (great for getting under it) and changed over the old non pug washer for the new genuine article, tightned up the nut, wiped the area, and there seems to be no oil coming out, but while under the car, its quite a bit dirty under there so ive sprayed more degreser on and its clean at the back of the engine aswell, i also got a good look at the turbo, thankfully no oil is coming out of it, but it must be an engine out job to do anything to it.
Hopefully the oil will stay in, the dipstick is reading slightly over the top mark but ill get the car to my mechanic he has a device that goes down the dipstick to take out some oil.

[sirwiggum]

Nice one!

I've been to Charles Wurst parts dept, always busy because they have 3 different marques (Pug, Citroen - who despite being similar have their own parts man - and Renault). Sold me the wrong bloody fuel filter housing.
Newtownabbey Peugeot parts dept was empty though they did order me the correct one.

How did you change your washer without draining the oil?

Saw a few 508s about. TBH the 1.6 is the one that the fleets are going to go for, so probably handy to keep a few examples about the showroom.

[FarmerPug]

its amazing how 1.6 is becomming the mainstream engine it used to be a 2.0 now it and the 2.2 gt are the luxury models and the 3.0 v6 is considered madness i will miss the idea of a big v6 pug.

as for the oil i parked the car like that that so i had a tonne of room i undid the bung took it out kept my finger over the hole and with the other hand put on the new seal around the plug then screwed it back on some oil came out but not a lot

[sirwiggum]

its amazing how 1.6 is becomming the mainstream engine it used to be a 2.0 now it and the 2.2 gt are the luxury models and the 3.0 v6 is considered madness i will miss the idea of a big v6 pug.

Blame taxation. The likes of the Mondeo they don't even sell a V6 anymore, and no saloons in the entire Ford range either. Interestingly, the 1.6 petrol in that has close to the same MPG as the 2.2 diesel, with lower tax.

I remember my old Xantia was a 1.8, and thinking that with 110bhp it wouldn't be that quick with anything slower (they sold an XUD n/a version at one point!).

The 1.6 diesels have cheap tax. For the 1.6 diesel Mondeo, tax is £30 a year!
For companies running fleets, and company car tax, engines like that make sense financially.

(blame my old company's company car scheme for why I know so much about the bloody Mondeo. They had no C5s due to depreciation being too high, the 407 was being phased out at the time, but in terms of the combination cost of tax and depreciation, a feckin BMW 318ed worked out cheaper than a Mondeo!)

I remember some old quirk in Greek tax law that Citroen sold a 1.1 litre BX!

Big engined mainstream cars are dead.

as for the oil i parked the car like that that so i had a tonne of room i undid the bung took it out kept my finger over the hole and with the other hand put on the new seal around the plug then screwed it back on some oil came out but not a lot

Good going to change a sump plug with little oil spillage! Must've waited about an hour on the oil cooling?

[jasper5]

Sorry FP but I had a little chuckle at this, when I read about not changing the plug washer I knew you would be back on talking about an oil leak

Anyone who is stuck without a new washer, put some instant gasket or silicon sealant around the plug threads near to the washer before you fit the plug, it won't leak then.

Of course, ideally you should fit a new washer, all of the local car spares shops near me sell the pug sump washers seperately.

[FarmerPug]

i had to wait a while for the oil to cool down i think it was about an hour, the stuff is rather sore on the hands if you take it out straight after the engines running (i can verify that)

i thought i could have got away with not changing the washer, i started the service 1 hour before work, and with 20 minuites until work i had to get a shower and changed so i just put the old one back in. But the new ones in now, just keeping an eye on it to make sure nothings leaking, i have sprayed degreaser under the car, but id ideally need it up on a lift to do it right. Next up will be to clean the brakes, sort the handbrake, flush the coolant, clean out the intercooler, fix the back tyre it has a slow puncture, and the car did a full spin on me yesterday round a corner.


I see even jaguar has gave the xf a downsized 2.2 diesel to appeal more towards the fleet market, i suppose thats good in a way we can all dream about buying an xf 3.0 v6 but the 2.2d is what we would actually buy.
as for a 1.1 litre bx 0-60 must be measured in days

[sirwiggum]

The man in the Merville auto factors usually throws in a sump plug washer when you ask for a gallon of oil, filters etc.

A diesel Jag, I would even consider an X type in diesel, even though it is manual and FWD. Jag purists had a heart attack at the prospect of a Jag diesel, but it's whats needed in the modern world, and big diesels suit the Jag cruising style.
They're HDis anyway are they not? The 3.0 is the C6 diesel.

[FarmerPug]

ahy they are all hdi's in the jags, though i would still prefer a rwd jag like the new xf as opposed to the old x type. A petrol xj converted to run on lpg is still the one id choose.

i went to europarts in dungannon for my stuff, got all the filters and oil, im sure they would have had a washer, but i never thought of it, because i bought a box of copper washers at a car boot sale last week, the trouble is none looked the right size and some were bent.

[sirwiggum]

Eurocarparts are usually very good, traced down and ordered hydraflush for my Xantia. Even the Citroen dealer hadn't heard of it.

GSF on the other hand were a bit ignorant.

[FarmerPug]

is there GSF stores over here?