Taxation Of Diesel

[gumby6371]

Apart from the fact it makes a lot of money for the government can anyone explain why Diesel is taxed more heavily than petrol?
Historically Diesel was a 'dirty' fuel and the additional taxation could be justified but surely now it's become in most cases cleaner than it's petrol equivalent.
Diesel fuelled cars will soon (if not already) outnumber petrols on our roads giving higher MPG's and lower emissions.

Currently a fuel that is less enviromentally damaging, cheaper to produce and more efficient for the user cost the consumer more money!!!

[waue1978]

Apart from the fact it makes a lot of money for the government can anyone explain why Diesel is taxed more heavily than petrol?
Historically Diesel was a 'dirty' fuel and the additional taxation could be justified but surely now it's become in most cases cleaner than it's petrol equivalent.
Diesel fuelled cars will soon (if not already) outnumber petrols on our roads giving higher MPG's and lower emissions.

Currently a fuel that is less enviromentally damaging, cheaper to produce and more efficient for the user cost the consumer more money!!!

Diesel cars do more mpg than a petrol = government gets less tax per mile. So they tax the diesel higher than the petrol to balance it out.

At least, that's probably how they'd try to justify it...

[mjb]

Why would the government make it less profitable for itself?

[steve_earwig]

If someone could make a car run on water they'd heap the tax on that instead

And just think - now fuel is getting ridiculously expensive and people are driving much less in more economical cars, the government will suddenly realise they're not raking enough in from it & will need to increase tax.

[StevieboyTD]

Pretty sure the tax on fossil fuel is the same whichever pump you get it from.

[plod]

Pretty sure the tax on fossil fuel is the same whichever pump you get it from.

this would seem to agree with that

http://www.businesslink.gov.uk/bdotg/ac ... =RESOURCES

[lozz]

If someone could make a car run on water they'd heap the tax on that instead

And just think - now fuel is getting ridiculously expensive and people are driving much less in more economical cars, the government will suddenly realise they're not raking enough in from it & will need to increase tax.

Idont think petrol/derv prices will go up.
theyre just grabbing the tax of something else

Gas /electric,

Ive just got my Waterbill, they only want £1,600 thats for the year,
so Maybe theyre taxin that hard too, to avoid hittin the petrol/derv prices,

[waue1978]

Ive just got my Waterbill, they only want £1,600 thats for the year,
so Maybe theyre taxin that hard too, to avoid hittin the petrol/derv prices,

Bloody hell!!! Are you on water meters? Ours was £450.

[lozz]

Ive just got my Waterbill, they only want £1,600 thats for the year,
so Maybe theyre taxin that hard too, to avoid hittin the petrol/derv prices,

Bloody hell!!! Are you on water meters? Ours was £450.

Yup we are on water meters
no choice as it was already here when we moved in,

never had a water bill this big its a joke,
considering we recycle all the rain water etc, from the gutters for cleaning the cars with etc,
makes me wonder, if someones running a pipe off our supply,

[waue1978]

Oops - ours isn't as cheap as I thought. It was instalments of £450 - total price was just over £1000.

Still, know what to look forward to when we get meters fitted in the next couple of years. Shared baths & turds left sitting in the bog for 6 hours at a time.

[lozz]

Using water,is hard to avoid where theres kids around.
ihave to go upstairs after the kids have been up switch taps off etc.

wife says i nagg to much at petty things like water,
but id like to send them for a day out to ethiopia maybe theyd value water abit more,

Try and get out of havin a water meter if you can mate, there a Nightmare,

[steve_earwig]

Everyone's on water meters here, I think we pay about 20 quid a month on this place (less on mine of course...) but there's only the two of us, I use rain water too and anyway the water comes out of a hole in the ground further up the mountain

I don't remember the water being anything like as expensive when I lived in blighty - Lozz mate, perhaps there's a leak, try turning everything off and watching the meter...

1,600 quid a year is not "petty"!!

[lozz]

No mate, weve no leak,
or atleast ihope not,

the house is victorian, old lead pipes, 3 big tanks in the loft,
4 toilets, two showers 3 baths,
uses alot aspose,
feck knows why its got so much plumbing its been a old hotel perhaps,

only got a year to go and were movin down south hopefully things will be abit cheaper down there, car insurance especialy,

[waue1978]

only got a year to go and were movin down south hopefully things will be abit cheaper down there, car insurance especialy,

How far South?

[lozz]

only got a year to go and were movin down south hopefully things will be abit cheaper down there, car insurance especialy,

How far South?

Hi waue,

thinkin of Colchester along them lines of the coast,
The Mother in law lives in Clacton so iwant to be out of walking distance of that