Need new discs but pads still quite new

Just your normal general chatting in here..

Moderator: Moderators

User avatar
Welly
The moderator formally known as Welton
Posts: 15033
Joined: Tue Jan 10, 2006 12:52 pm
Location: East Midlandfordshire

Need new discs but pads still quite new

Post by Welly »

Just in general here, if you fit new discs can you get away with re-using the pads if they've only done about 7000 miles?

My discs were still fine at the last pad change but they seem to have gotten worse quite quickly (maybe the new pads?) and I think one or both of them have warped as there's a slight vibration under braking.

Need to fit new discs but didn't really want to throw away decent pads :|
Cars in my care:
2021 Kia Spottage 1.6 Pez Turbo Dual Clutch Gearbox Trickery
2013 Renner Twingo - donkey work
User avatar
steve_earwig
Moderator
Posts: 19813
Joined: Thu Oct 04, 2007 6:09 pm
Location: Jastrebarsko, Croatia http://www.jastrebarsko.hr/lokacija/

Re: Need new discs but pads still quite new

Post by steve_earwig »

I reckon Jasper would be the best person to answer this one :wink:

I guess the problem is transferring scores and whatever wear marks from your old disks. I suggest getting some fairly coarse wet & dry, putting it on a flat surface & using this to make sure the faces of the pads are dead flat. Of course you know not to breathe this stuff...
Unskilled meddling sin©e 2007

The submitted form was invalid. Try submitting again.
User avatar
Welly
The moderator formally known as Welton
Posts: 15033
Joined: Tue Jan 10, 2006 12:52 pm
Location: East Midlandfordshire

Re: Need new discs but pads still quite new

Post by Welly »

steve_earwig wrote:Of course you know not to breathe this stuff...
Mmm, I'll pass on your good advice to 'my man' who will be carrying out said fitments :mrgreen:

(f*cked if I'm messing about with brakes on a freezing Saturday, on me drive, with completely inadequate equipment).

I'm actually keeping half-an-eye out for some Focus ST Callipers and 330mm discs as a kinda braking upgrade but they all get snapped up by the Mondeo boys and prices have risen in all the excitement i.e. £300.00 for a pair of rusty callipers/discs off a 4/5 year old car :roll: :frown: the stupid thing is some of the 2.0D Volvo's got the 'big brakes' straight from the factory and no-one knows why (parts bin lottery?) I've got the most powerful model with shitty standard brakes :roll:
Cars in my care:
2021 Kia Spottage 1.6 Pez Turbo Dual Clutch Gearbox Trickery
2013 Renner Twingo - donkey work
jasper5
3.0 24v
Posts: 3689
Joined: Fri Nov 28, 2008 1:30 pm

Re: Need new discs but pads still quite new

Post by jasper5 »

If I was asked to do this for a customer where I had to gaurantee the discs I would insist on new pads, but If this was my own car I would follow Steve's advice and use some 40 or 60 grade production paper and flat them down before fitting.
User avatar
Welly
The moderator formally known as Welton
Posts: 15033
Joined: Tue Jan 10, 2006 12:52 pm
Location: East Midlandfordshire

Re: Need new discs but pads still quite new

Post by Welly »

Ok thanks, I'll see how it pans out, the discs aren't really scored or anything - there's a bit of a lip now on the edge but I think they're warped and I'm a fussy git with brakes.
Cars in my care:
2021 Kia Spottage 1.6 Pez Turbo Dual Clutch Gearbox Trickery
2013 Renner Twingo - donkey work
omega
3.0 24v
Posts: 1745
Joined: Wed Dec 31, 2008 12:25 am
Location: nottingham

Re: Need new discs but pads still quite new

Post by omega »

Welly wrote:Ok thanks, I'll see how it pans out, the discs aren't really scored or anything - there's a bit of a lip now on the edge but I think they're warped and I'm a fussy git with brakes.
then buy a set of new pads then :cheesy:
User avatar
lozz
3.0 24v
Posts: 11908
Joined: Thu Oct 07, 2010 10:18 pm
Location: where-ever

Re: Need new discs but pads still quite new

Post by lozz »

Iwouidnt put old pads on with new discs,

you can end up with brake judder,
for what pads cost your best off replacing them with new ones,
they might be new is but they wont be even, if your old disks where worn the pads will be uneven against new discs,

iput new discs on a ford mondeo and put the old pads back in, the brakes where Juddery,
User avatar
Welly
The moderator formally known as Welton
Posts: 15033
Joined: Tue Jan 10, 2006 12:52 pm
Location: East Midlandfordshire

Re: Need new discs but pads still quite new

Post by Welly »

The last set of genuine Volvo pads cost £75.00 from memory but that was front and rear, I'll have to dig out the invoice to see how much the fronts were. According to the Volvo forum then ONLY genuine pads should be used, they've all had bad results with after market stuff I don't know why.

I really want to do the big brake thing eventually but hate this slight judder I've picked up in the meantime.
Cars in my care:
2021 Kia Spottage 1.6 Pez Turbo Dual Clutch Gearbox Trickery
2013 Renner Twingo - donkey work
User avatar
Doggy
Mod with a 2.2 HDi, De-Fapped!
Posts: 10710
Joined: Mon Oct 13, 2008 11:49 pm
Location: Northants

Re: Need new discs but pads still quite new

Post by Doggy »

Welly wrote:I really want to do the big brake thing eventually
http://www.dcperformance.co.uk/cheap/45 ... 7-400.html

> £2.5K :shock:
2002 HDi 2.2 Exec Estate, (2008-12) (wonderful)
2003 HDi 2.2 6-speed Exec Estate (2012-19) (also a gem)
2009 Citroen C5 2.0 HDi VTR+ Estate (godawful heap)
2008 BMW E91 330i touring (great fun - murdered by a reversing SUV)
2007 BMW E91 325i touring (slower smoother quieter)
User avatar
puggy
Resident Pervert
Posts: 3251
Joined: Tue May 01, 2007 7:47 am
Location: staffordshire

Re: Need new discs but pads still quite new

Post by puggy »

As steve says really welly , although i have done what you are proposing
in the past to no detriment to the disc's , put them in did a few emergency
stops and they were fine and no scoring on the disc's .
.. ooh are those drugs for me Matron
User avatar
Welly
The moderator formally known as Welton
Posts: 15033
Joined: Tue Jan 10, 2006 12:52 pm
Location: East Midlandfordshire

Re: Need new discs but pads still quite new

Post by Welly »

dogslife wrote:
Welly wrote:I really want to do the big brake thing eventually
http://www.dcperformance.co.uk/cheap/45 ... 7-400.html

> £2.5K :shock:
I know :shock:

I could kick myself now for missing out on a set of Focus ST big-brakes (Asbo's :roll: ) there was a guy on the Volvo forum selling a refurbed set, painted black, with a brand new set of discs for £295.00 posted :wink: I shoulda got them and put them to one side :supafrisk:

Trouble is they fit Mondy's, Volvo's and Foci so get snapped up on the rapid :(
Cars in my care:
2021 Kia Spottage 1.6 Pez Turbo Dual Clutch Gearbox Trickery
2013 Renner Twingo - donkey work
User avatar
Doggy
Mod with a 2.2 HDi, De-Fapped!
Posts: 10710
Joined: Mon Oct 13, 2008 11:49 pm
Location: Northants

Re: Need new discs but pads still quite new

Post by Doggy »

puggy wrote:As steve says really welly , although i have done what you are proposing
in the past to no detriment to the disc's , put them in did a few emergency
stops and they were fine and no scoring on the disc's .
Did you put them on the main landing gear, or just the tail-wheel?
2002 HDi 2.2 Exec Estate, (2008-12) (wonderful)
2003 HDi 2.2 6-speed Exec Estate (2012-19) (also a gem)
2009 Citroen C5 2.0 HDi VTR+ Estate (godawful heap)
2008 BMW E91 330i touring (great fun - murdered by a reversing SUV)
2007 BMW E91 325i touring (slower smoother quieter)
User avatar
steve_earwig
Moderator
Posts: 19813
Joined: Thu Oct 04, 2007 6:09 pm
Location: Jastrebarsko, Croatia http://www.jastrebarsko.hr/lokacija/

Re: Need new discs but pads still quite new

Post by steve_earwig »

dogslife wrote:
Welly wrote:I really want to do the big brake thing eventually
http://www.dcperformance.co.uk/cheap/45 ... 7-400.html

> £2.5K :shock:
I reckon you could pick up a parachute for less than that :supafrisk:
Unskilled meddling sin©e 2007

The submitted form was invalid. Try submitting again.
User avatar
Doggy
Mod with a 2.2 HDi, De-Fapped!
Posts: 10710
Joined: Mon Oct 13, 2008 11:49 pm
Location: Northants

Re: Need new discs but pads still quite new

Post by Doggy »

Reckon you're right, Steve.

Did you mean for welly, puggy, or both?
2002 HDi 2.2 Exec Estate, (2008-12) (wonderful)
2003 HDi 2.2 6-speed Exec Estate (2012-19) (also a gem)
2009 Citroen C5 2.0 HDi VTR+ Estate (godawful heap)
2008 BMW E91 330i touring (great fun - murdered by a reversing SUV)
2007 BMW E91 325i touring (slower smoother quieter)
User avatar
steve_earwig
Moderator
Posts: 19813
Joined: Thu Oct 04, 2007 6:09 pm
Location: Jastrebarsko, Croatia http://www.jastrebarsko.hr/lokacija/

Re: Need new discs but pads still quite new

Post by steve_earwig »

I meant for Welly to affix to the rear of his turnip. Why Puggy, what's with all the aeroplane stuff? Did I miss something? I mean did I miss something else? I know my brain's going soft but, erm, cheese and, erm, what was
Unskilled meddling sin©e 2007

The submitted form was invalid. Try submitting again.
Post Reply