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Thought I'd start a "swear at my car" thread by asking...what's wrong with your 406? Lately, everyone seems to be having a problem of some description. Niz has some knocking, supa's throttle isn't working correctly, Welly's seems to be falling apart with a clutch problem.

Welp, let me start. After servicing, the only thing that's still not 100% sorted is the whining noise that seems to be present at around 2600 rpm. Even though the cam belt, the alternator belt and the water pump have all been replaced. But other than that, at 112.5k miles it's as sweet as a nut :)
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at the moment all seems to be well, after 4 new tyres, new clutch cable, 4 new anti roll bar links, new tdc sensor, map sensor, cambelt water pump and tensioners and new dashboard and climate control display bulbs
the only thing thats wrong is the fuel consumption has gone through the roof
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alls sweet in my 406 rose garden. I had to replace a number plate bulb last week, but that's been it.
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Dodgy connection on one of the dash lights behind the rev counter... dunno how to go about fixing that
Bonnet's still the manky badly-fitting one I picked up from a breakers yard with more various shades of touch-up paint than original
Rear discs, pads and probably shoes desperately need replacing
One of the rear wheel arch liners needs replacing
Throttle linkage bit with the ball joints needs replacing
Heated seats don't work
Something's vibrating and buzzing somewhere inside the centre of the dash
Leaky exhaust near the centre section
Nasty ticking sound from the injectors
The engine's drinking oil and coolant
The oil+filter need replacing
...

Wish I had the money, good weather and somewhere off-road to tackle some of that (I don't like getting under the car in the middle of my street!)
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*ahem*
  • Replace Clutch and Flywheel assy - kerChing KerfuckingChing
    Renew eggsauce centre section - kerChing
    Replace rear engine mount - KerChing
    Respray rear bumper and fit new P badge - KerChing
    Renew clips to drivers door sill rubber strip - Ching
    Faint knocking at rear investigate and repair - KerChing
    Investigate loud cracks/bangs from stereo - Ker
    Once all done, seriously consider a REMAP - KerChing
    Replace front and rear number plates with newer font ones - Ker
    Order set of tailored carpet mats off ebay - Ching
    *Remortgage House to pay for all of the above*
But, is it worth it?

I think so........

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[font=Microsoft Sans Serif]not actually sure if it is worth it sometimes[/font] :shock:
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Err, Captain good idea for a thread BTW, we might aswell try and help aswell, so, your whining noise your on about - Have you ever had the gearbox oil changed?

People don't tend to bother with the gearbox oil but it does age and go out of grade, I've started to change gearbox oil on my cars in recent years (although I haven't done the HDi yet).

It's very cheap and even if it does not cure the whine (which I think it could do) it's still a worthwhile job for the gearbox condition.
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Well.... My Intercooler has blown again at least thats what I think it is not really looked so its that or a split pipe or leaky joint.... The temp gauge needle bulb has blown..... the knocking at the rear seems to go when the petrol tank is full... so going to check the tank cradle and prolly just padd it out...! !

N/S lower balljoint needs replacing... I have the part in the back of the car where its been for 3 weeks but just couldn't be bothered to fit it, what with the rubbish weather we've been having ! ! !

MP3 part of my headunit has started playing up after 2 - 3 years ! gets too warm and songs get jumpy... yet CD playback is fine regardless ... go figure !

Getting another De-cat pipe made up this week hopefully if they can fit me in, might wait til saturday and do it then, so I can over see their efforts lol !

Errrmmm apart from that, its all G-hood in the hood !
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I still got the 100mph problem that when I hit a ton ish warning lights come on inc ABS, Speedo drops to 60ish (even tho I'm still doing a ton), brakes and steering feel heavier.

Also got a Engine Coolant Temp is Too High warning light occasionally, but this goes out after a few mins.

Lost me Oil Cap and had to buy a new 1 from Peugeot Stealers for £3.
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Post by Welly »

I've just realised what your problem could be, the air pressure going through your front grille at 100 MPH is making the relays next to the electric cooling fan play up.

The dodgy relay is a common thing and will call up the Engine Temp too high message, and most likely cause the others too.

Don't dismiss anything, I had to replace the whole fan recently and I had some really weard things on the ECU codes which you would NEVER think were connected to the fan.
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Welly, I don't think the noise is gear box related, as if I rev up the engine to 2600rpm in neutral, the same noise comes from the engine.

Will probably replace gear box oil in due course....
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Only two things with mine at the moment... Loose connection behind the dash for the ventilation blower, a swift kick to the panel under the steering wheel gets it working! And need to fit new front pads.

That's pretty much it apart from the bodywork but that's owner problems not car problems!
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niz406 wrote:MP3 part of my headunit has started playing up after 2 - 3 years ! gets too warm and songs get jumpy... yet CD playback is fine regardless ... go figure !
AHA! Now here's something I can answer for once ;)

I doubt audio cd playback is actually fine, rather it is inaudiably broken.

Whereas an mpeg stream can't lose any data at all without screeching/skipping/etc, audio cds work not exactly like but more like a vinyl record. When read in a normal audio player they'll skip like a vinyl but when read in data mode (which most mp3 players will do) it'd be like the record player has a bag of sugar on the stylus glueing it into the track groove (ignore the sound quality problem you'd have with that...). Anything bad will just get skipped over for a minute fraction of a second

Of course there are error recovery mechanisms built into the cd iso specification which lets you listen to scratched cds, but these aren't infallible and if a large concurrent section of the disc (about 5 degrees radially iirc) is unreadable then your data cd will be useless whereas an audio cd might just skip that 1/72 of a rotation, where the disc is rotating at a variable speed dependant on tracking position of between 200 and 530rpm). This is why you should clean cds in a spoke-like fashion and not rotationally

The trouble with car cd players is of course that they can overheat causing the plastic of the cd to expand which as you've discovered can alter the reflective properties of the disc causing the laser to be unable to read it. Tried wrapping up warm and belting the aircon on? ;)

An alternative I've just thought up and not tried myself yet would be to burn crap to the first half of a cd and then your mp3s to the latter half. The reason for this is as I mentioned before the drive has to spin the cd much faster when reading the inside tracks, hence just listening to stuff at the end of the disc should slow down the motor resulting in less heat production.
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Post by niz406 »

Hummmm funny you should mention heat... I have a 5 band EQ / X-Over / line driver installed under it and when I have the heading on in the car with that as welll I experience the problem ! ! Its strange, it sometimes happens when cold also ! !
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Post by Welly »

mjb - very good 'article' abour CD's /MP3's :cheesy:

Supa - I doubt the unleaded has damaged the pistons or the valves, but it could have affected the injector spray pattern, we have an Arsetra Van at work and the injector 'tips' were worn (driver 'says' he never put petrol in) anyway, the noise was all clattery like a really cold/old diesel engine starting up with a heavy clattering/slapping.

Turns out the injector pattern was out, reconditioned injectors cured it.
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Noice one.
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