Sky Tv.

[lozz]

Sorry Heres another. Sky question,

As anyone here had Sky tv installed with no-phone line?
Ive Binned Bt so ive no Working phone line, got a Dead tone thats it,

Sky Rekon theyre going to send a signal to the Box,
ive told them thats B/s but they shrugged off that comment,
hey ho they know everything so ilet them sighn the forms,

Soo. is that true? By what they mean send a signal and Activate the card..?

Or am iright ..is it just a Canvasers blag to get me to sighn up,

[Busman]

A friend of mine, Simon, has just had Sky installed in his very rural house that has never had a landline phone. I've asked him how he did it and he said it's easy, just tell them if you want my custom, then make it work with no landline. After a few phone calls, they did just that.
It seems the attitude you need to take is if you want my money, make it work with no landline or otherwise poke it. You are the customer and they are lucky to get your money.

[DaiRees]

Now I might be talking bullshit here, but....

My understanding has always been that the phoneline is only ever used for your Sky box to dial out, to use such things as the piss poor "interactive" features on there, some games, shopping, email etc. These calls are usually chargeable (maybe "premium") so it's another income stream for them. Your box never "receives" an incoming call.

When they send a signal to your box to change something, update something, activate your porn package ect, that comes in via the satellite signal.

They don't like to let you have a box that isn't connected to a phone line in case they miss out on the 23p that the call generates during the 5 seconds when you're shouting "f*ck it's dialling, quick backup, BACKUP!!!!", but in reality the box will function perfectly well without the phone line.

Actually, my Sky box is now connected to my broadband, so there's no reason at all why it should be connected to a phone line.... yeah, I'm off to unplug the phone line right now!!

Hope that helps

[scotty73]

A mate of mine had sky years ago with no landline so it can be done, when i've changed my package i just say yes it's connected to the phone line (even though it hasn't been for years) and they've done what they wanted to do no problems at all.

On the other hand a mate of mine leaves his sky plus box in his caravan but every few months he gets a letter saying to connect it to your phone or we'll disconnect your package... So how do they know it's not in the house?

F*ck sky anyway they're way behind on all the good tv thats what t'internet is for.

[Bailes1992]

Our sky box hasen't been connected to the telephone like for YEARS!

[lozz]

Thanks all for the replys:

im still confused with the intitial activation of the card,
Withought them being sent info, you just get Basic Free sat Dont you?

How many Years wouid it take for them to activate it by satelite,

[lozz]

A mate of mine had sky years ago with no landline so it can be done, when i've changed my package i just say yes it's connected to the phone line (even though it hasn't been for years) and they've done what they wanted to do no problems at all.

On the other hand a mate of mine leaves his sky plus box in his caravan but every few months he gets a letter saying to connect it to your phone or we'll disconnect your package... So how do they know it's not in the house?

F*ck sky anyway they're way behind on all the good tv thats what t'internet is for.

Good tv,? theres never owt on Tv worth watching, its all the same old b/s

[scotty73]

A mate of mine had sky years ago with no landline so it can be done, when i've changed my package i just say yes it's connected to the phone line (even though it hasn't been for years) and they've done what they wanted to do no problems at all.

On the other hand a mate of mine leaves his sky plus box in his caravan but every few months he gets a letter saying to connect it to your phone or we'll disconnect your package... So how do they know it's not in the house?

F*ck sky anyway they're way behind on all the good tv thats what t'internet is for.

Good tv,? theres never owt on Tv worth watching, its all the same old b/s

I'm talking American tv mainly, some Ausie tv is awesome (no not neighbours and home and away) ... Even the Canadians do some good stuff

I can count on one hand the brit tv i watch at the moment... Shameless, Red dwarf, wheeler dealers and new tricks... See one hand i have a finger or thumb left. ... Shouldn't laugh though brit tv is pants and we pay a licence fee before sky for the privilage.

[lozz]

America tv is almost as bad as ours,

whats the latest craze,. Dallas. id sooner watch grass grow,
aspose its gotta be better than watching constipation st

ah well winters here, time to light the coal fire and watch the flames flicker, fook the tv,

[Busman]

But sky is so much money. Lots of people I know pay over £400 per year for it. All to make Murdoch and his family rich, well they don't need my money.

But, as I said, my mate Simon has just had it installed having never had a landline phone. So there has to be a way of doing it. I would just say to them no landline, so come up with a solution, or i'm off.

[lozz]

Yeah iagree ,Sky is expensive,

But Theyve all been Moaning for it, so they can pitch in with the Bill,

ive orderd Broadband too, 7.50 amonth on a download what you want basis, and you get a password for Cloud, what ever that is

got to wait up to 3 weeks for sky to take over the Bt line,
the line rental seems to be the expensive bit, theres no getting away from bt is there

[scotty73]

I aint paid bt a penny in 5 years for line rental, i pay my provider and they must pay bt surely a company as big as sky can sort it with bt so you only have one bill?

As for the American tv being just as bad i don't bother with Dallas but there are some cracking programmes on at the moment and months before they hit our tv... I've had sky for years sports, movies the lot but it's silly money if it wern't for the kids tv i'd jack it in altogether.

There is a way of getting it without paying sky mind you.

[lozz]

Yeah true, its all one bill,
but still. your tied with Bt its there line, @ a scandalous price too (bastids!)

Ive done some Reading,
it looks like- if the Tv side of its not activated, they carnt charge you
and ican Bin the contract which ihavent sighned , thatd leave me with a free sat system as they dont seem to ask for them back, going off how many are on ebay

Strangely igot 3 sky cards through the door yesterday,
heres hoping they dont bring 3 sky boxes, which ididnt ask for

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Your TV

Sky+HD Pack
Sky+ Subscription
Entertainment Extra

Your Box

Install Visit
Promotional Installation Discount x 3
Sky+HD
Box Discount
Sky+HD Box Discounted

Your Broadband & Talk

Sky Talk Weekends
Phone Line Activation
New Line Provide Discounted
Caller Display
Sky Talk Line Rental
1571 - Voicemail
WiFi Hotspots from The Cloud
Broadband Box
Broadband Box Discounted
Sky Broadband Unlimited
Broadband Hardware Postage
Free Postage Charge
Broadband Activation Fee
Broadband Activation Fee Discount

[scotty73]

If you don't take it up they'll ask for the box back trust me, the ones on ebay are from people who've updraded or no longer need the box... At one point i had one in the caravan and 3 in the house thats without the sky plus box downstairs they're pretty easy to comebye.

What are they charging for the line rental? to me if you don't use a landline you don't pay it.

[lozz]

Broadband Package Sky Broadband Unlimited £7.50 a month.
Talk Package Sky Talk Weekends Nil.
Line Rental Sky Line Rental £14.50 a month.