Price of a new 2.0TDi in 2001?

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Can anyone tell me what a 2.0TDi saloon would have cost new in March 2001? I bought such a car earlier this month, and it came with unusually full documentation including every MoT certificate since 2004 except one, as well as sales invoices for two previous changes of ownership. (In May 2002, after fourteen busy months with a hire company in Manchester, it changed hands for £10,999, and in February 2008 for £2200; I paid £450 on eBay. How are the mighty fallen!) As a matter of simple curiosity, I should like to complete the picture by adding a note of the original price to the dossier.

The car has a manual gearbox and the 90hp (66kw) engine. Equipment includes RD3 (Clarion) radio/CD player, digitally-controlled air-conditioning, four air-bags and electric windows all round, but not GPS, alarm, cruise control, electric or heated seats, sun-roof or alloy wheels.

Oliver Mundy.

[Welly]

Would need the exact model to be fair, I think Parkers or that type of Used Car price guide used to list the 'New' figures against each model. As an example I think the 406 executive was £21K new in 2001

Tell us the spec i.e. LX, GLX etc and I'm sure we can narrow it down for you.

[steve_earwig]

TDi?

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'406 LX HDi' [not TDi, as steve_earwig has rightly observed] is what the V5 says. I am afraid I was thinking of my previous 406, a 1997 1.9TD.

I have been looking at the Parker site, but I could not find any details of original prices. (What I did discover - irrelevantly as far as the present enquiry is concerned, but I cannot help crowing about it - is that my car scrapes, by eleven days*, into the emissions-related category of road-tax bands, with the result that my annual running costs have just dropped by £85! It promises to be significantly more economical than my old car as well, though I have not yet done enough driving to establish any figures.)

*Having been first registered on 12th March 2001. Apparently this car counts as Band F (up to 150g/km), which is a rare instance of generosity on our masters' part, since Peugeot themselves claim no better than 154g/km in the handbook.

Oliver Mundy.

[steve_earwig]

I can't remember Parkers having the original new price of cars, I think it was What "we love anything German especially bimmers 'cos we're stupid fuckwits" Car? that used to do that

[trem1]

post/pm your vin and we can find out what servicebox says, if you want information overload that is

[grasmere59]

I can't remember Parkers having the original new price of cars

They do show the original cost of new cars if there 2004/53 or newer.

[Sonia406]

post/pm your vin and we can find out what servicebox says, if you want information overload that is

Will service box say how much the car was sold for when it was new then?

[Welly]

I've been struggling to find original prices on the net but came across this.....http://www.ebay.com/itm/Peugeot-406-LXS ... 27c8548757

It suggests a D8 1997 LX 1.9TD was £14,495.00

4 years later I'd expect a D9 HDi would be about the same? I'm sure when the D9's came out they were the same, if not cheaper, than the D8's.........some say the D9 is of lesser quality so was 'cheapened' by Peugeot in effect. There was a big argument about this on here once. To be fair I believe the D8's were better made but that's just my opinion.

[trem1]

post/pm your vin and we can find out what servicebox says, if you want information overload that is

Will service box say how much the car was sold for when it was new then?

No but it will give what the spec was etc

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The VIN is VF38BRHYF81283147.

'Information overload' is not a problem as I am a lifelong hoarder of useless knowledge.

Thank you all!

Oliver Mundy.

[trem1]

Ok Oliver you aked for this


Vehicle characteristics

Vehicle family 406 (RESTYLING)
Build code 08857 89 2 0089
Warranty Start Date 12/03/2001
BER e2*98/14*0087*02

General information
PRODUCT TYPE CAR
COMMERCIAL MARQUE/COMPONENT TYPE PEUGEOT
VEHICLE FAMILY 406 (RESTYLING)
SILHOUETTE 4 DOOR SALOON
TRIM LEVEL SELECTION PACK
ENGINE TURBO DIESEL DW10TD
TRANSMISSION BVM5
PAINT TYPE METALLIC PAINTWORK
BODY COLOUR EGE - CHINA BLUE PAINT
INTERIOR TRIM TYPE FOCH VELOUR + "NY" POINTIL
UPHOLSTERY COLOUR "FZ"
GEARBOX (CHARACTERISTICS) BE4-5L MANUAL GEARBOX
ENGINE (TYPE) EW/DW
OTHER BADGE HDI
BADGE LX

Vehicle characteristics
TRIM LEVEL SELECTION PACK
PAINT TYPE METALLIC PAINTWORK
BODY COLOUR EGE - CHINA BLUE PAINT
INTERIOR TRIM TYPE FOCH VELOUR + "NY" POINTIL
UPHOLSTERY COLOUR "FZ"
GEARBOX (CHARACTERISTICS) BE4-5L MANUAL GEARBOX
STEERING UNVARIABLE POWER STEERING
SPEEDOMETER DRIVE TACHO TORQUE 22X18

Fuel supply-Engine
ENGINE TURBO DIESEL DW10TD
DIESEL FILTER WATER DETECTOR WITHOUT DIESEL FILTER WATER DETECTOR
FUEL DIESEL FUEL
EMISSIONS STANDARD (ENGINE) EEC 2000 DEPOLL (ENGINE)
SPEED SENSOR SIGNAL SENSOR HALL EFFECT
ENGINE (TYPE) EW/DW
CATALYTIC CONVERTER 3 PARTS CATALYST
OIL COOLER MNTG WATER/OIL EXCHANGER ON ENGINE
CRANKCASE GAS CIRCUIT HEATING W/O HEATER CASING GAS CIRCUIT
FUEL SUPPLY CUTOFF FUEL FEED CUT-OFF
EOBD SELF-DIAGNOSIS SYSTEM WITHOUT "EOBD" AUTO-DIAGNOSTIC
DEVICE (ANTIPOLLUTION) "EGR" EXHAUST GAS RECYCLING
VEHICLE TECHNICAL DEPOLLUTION L4 VEHICLE TECHNICAL DEPOLLUTION
PARTICLE FILTER WITHOUT PARTICLE FILTER
FAN 1 FAN 350W
FUEL VAPOUR RETRIEVAL WITHOUT PETROL VAPOUR RECUPERATION
INJECTION ASSOCIATED VARIANT W/O INJECTION VARIANT

Gearbox Transmission
TRANSMISSION BVM5
GEARBOX (CHARACTERISTICS) BE4-5L MANUAL GEARBOX
FINAL DRIVE RATIO REAR AXLE HYPOID GEARSET 19 X 77
SPEEDOMETER DRIVE TACHO TORQUE 22X18
WHEEL STYLE STEEL WHEEL
CLUTCH HYDRAULIC CLUTCH
GEARBOX SAFETY LOCK W/O G/BOX SECURITY LOCKING
DIFFERENTIAL (GEARBOX) SUPERIOR GEARBOX DIFF
TYRE (SIZE, TYPE) 195X65X15 H TYRES
WHEELS FITTED 6" RIM ROAD WHEELS
WHEEL (TYPE) STEEL WHEELS
GEARBOX TYPE GEARBOX BE4R

Suspension-Steering-Brakes
ABS WITH ABS BRAKES
REAR ANTI-ROLL BAR REAR ANTI-ROLL BAR DIAM 22
ANTI-THEFT DEVICE STANDARD ANTI-THEFT
STEERING UNVARIABLE POWER STEERING
FRONT ANTI-ROLL BAR FRONT ANTI-ROLL BAR DIAM 23
SERVICE BRAKE ELECTRONIC BRAKEFORCE DISTRIBUTION
BRAKE TYPE VENTILATED FRONT DISCS/REAR DISCS
POWER STEERING FLUID COOLING SYSTEM WITH POWER STEERING OIL COOLING
SUSPENSION NORMAL SUSPENSION
ACTIVE SUSPENSION WITHOUT VARIABLE SUSPENSION
DYNAMIC STABILITY CONTROL SYSTEM WITHOUT ELECTRONIC STABILITY PROGRAM
EMERGENCY BRAKING ASSISTANCE TEVES BRAKE SERVO

Body fittings
HORNS HORNS-HARMONY
AERIAL AMPLIFIED ROOF AERIAL
WIPER ARM FRONT BLADE WITHOUT DEFLECTOR
SIDE MOULDINGS (TYPE) PROTECTOR WITH CHROME RING
SIDE MOULDINGS (DIMENSION) LATERAL PROTECTORS L=50 + SIDE SILL
WHEEL EMBELLISHER (STYLE) 15 INCH JAZZ STYLE WITH 7 OPENINGS
SILL ILLUMINATION LAMP WITHOUT SILL ILLUMINATION
ADDITIONAL SHIELD (UNDER ENGINE) W/O ENGINE UNDERSHELDING
EXT. REARVIEW MIRROR COMP. FUNCTION EXT DOOR MIRROR WITHOUT ADDITIONAL FUNCTION
EXHAUST TAILPIPE TRIM W/O EXHAUST OUTLET EMBELLISHER
ENGINE BAY SOUNDPROOFING BONNET SOUND-PROOFING
WINDSCREEN WIPER FRONT WIPER BLADE WITH RAIN SENSOR
REAR SCREEN WIPER W/O REAR SCREEN WASH WIPE
HEADLAMP WIPER W/O HEADLAMP WIPER
FRONT PANEL BLANK WITHOUT FRONT BUMPER PLUG
BUMPER BODY COLOUR FRONT/REAR BUMPER
MUDFLAP WITHOUT MUDGUARD
LUGGAGE RACK WITHOUT ROOF BARS
FRONT FOGLAMP FRONT FOG LIGHTS
EXTERIOR REAR VIEW MIRROR (DRIVER SIDE) HT EXT RRVW MIRROR EL INT CONTR
EXTERIOR REAR VIEW MIRROR (PASSENGER SIDE) OUTSIDE PASS RRVIEW MIRROR HEATED ELEC CNTRL
SPARE WHEEL STEEL WHEEL + STANDARD TYRE
EXTERIOR ACCESSORIES BODY COLOUR DOOR MIRRORS + HANDLES
EXT. REAR VIEW MIRROR (DRIVER SIDE RADIUS) DOMED DRIVER’S DOOR MIRROR GLASSS
REAR SCREEN WASH W/O REAR SCREEN WASH
SUN ROOF FIXED ROOF
GLASS (APPEARANCE) TINTED
REAR QUARTER WINDOW (TYPE) WITHOUT REAR QUARTER GLASS
WINDOW (TYPE) NON ATHERMAL WINDSCREEN

Interior fittings
INTERIOR TRIM TYPE FOCH VELOUR + "NY" POINTIL
ANTI-THEFT ALARM WITHOUT THEFT PROTECTION ALARM
REAR HEAD RESTRAINT REAR HEADREST ADJUSTABLE
FRONT HEAD RESTRAINT JOINTED FRONT HEADREST
REAR SEAT REAR BENCH SEAT SINGLE CUSHION SEPARATE SEAT BACKS
SUPPLEMENTARY SEAT WITHOUT SUPPLEMENTARY SEAT POSITN
REAR SEAT ARMREST WITH REAR ARMREST
LOAD FLOOR MOULDING WITHOUT LOAD FLOOR STRIP
RADIO TELEPHONE WITHOUT TELEPHONE PRE-EQUIPMENT
LUGGAGE COVER WITHOUT LUGGAGE COVER
FRONT SEATBELT PYROTECHNIC SEAT BELT WITHOUT ALARM
CLIMATE (AMBIENT TEMP) TEMPERATE COUNTRIES
AIR CONDITIONING WITH HEATER ASSISTED CONTROL
SPEED GRADUATIONS GRADUATION MPH
CONSOLE LONG CONSOLE (SEPARATE GLOVE BOX)
DRIVING POSITION RIGHT HAND DRIVE
REMOTE CONTROL REMOTE CONTROL ASSEMBLY
DASHBOARD EQUIPMENT DASHBOARD LARGE GLOVEBOX COVER, WALNUT EFFECT TRIM
INTERFERENCE SUPPRESSION RADIO INTERFERENCE SUPPRESSOR
MISC. INT. LAMPS MAP READING LAMP
LOAD SPACE TRIM TRIM BOOT + RR TAILGAT FLAP
INSTRUMENT PANEL (CHARACTERISTICS) STANDARD SPEEDO LOWER GRADUATION
DOOR TRIM WALNUT EFFECT DECOR
TACHOMETER (SIGNAL CONNECTION) REV COUNTER CALC
CHILD SEAT ANCHORING POINTS WITHOUT CHILD SEAT MOUNTING
LOUDSPEAKER MOUNTING 4 LOUDSPEAKERS + 2 TWEETERS
RADIO CONTROLS REMOTE RADIO CONTROL WITHOUT CD FUNCTION
POLLEN FILTER WITH POLLEN FILTER
SCREENING (BLIND, SIDE SUNBLIND, SUNROOF) WITHOUT SUN VISOR SCREEN
FRONT PASSENGER SEAT HEIGHT CONTROL WITHOUT FRONT PASSENGER SEAT HEIGHT ADJUSTMENT
DRIVER SEAT CONTROL DRIVERS FRT SEAT MANUAL CNTROL
FRONT PASSENGER SEAT CONTROL PASSENGER FRT SEAT MANUAL CNTR
DRIVER SEAT ADJUSTMENT RECLINING DRIVER’S SEAT BACK
FRONT PASSENGER SEAT ADJUSTMENT PASSENGER TILTING BACK
FRONT SEAT ARMREST FITTED WITH ARMREST
EXTERIOR TEMP. INDICATOR EXT TEMP INDICATOR
COMPACT DISC WITHOUT COMPACT DISC
HANDBRAKE WARNING LAMP WITHOUT PARKING BREAK INDICATOR
SATELLITE NAVIGATION SYSTEM WITHOUT NAVIGATION SYSTEM
REAR WINDOW LIFT ELECT CONTR RR WINDOW LIFTER
DRIVER’S WINDOW LIFT SEQUENTIAL DRIVER’S ELECTRIC WINDOW
PASSENGER’S WINDOW LIFT ELEC CNTRL PASS FRONT WINDOW LIFTER
DISPLAY DISPLAY (RADIO+CLOCK AND OR TEMP, CD)
COURTESY MIRROR DRIV OCCULT+PASS OCCULT W/O LIGHT
OIL GAUGE STD OIL LEVEL INDICATOR
HEATING ELEMENT NON HEATED SEAT
FRONT LATERAL AIRBAG DOUBLE FRONT LATERAL AIRBAG
PASSENGER AIRBAG PASSENGER AIRBAG
ELECTRIC WINDOW (OPERATION) DRIVERS SIDE ELECTRIC WINDOW AUTO STOP
LOUDSPEAKER GRILLE (REAR PASSENGER COMPARTMENT) WITH REAR SHELF LOUDSPEAKER GRILLE
ON-BOARD COMPUTER COMPUTER
AIRBAG DEACTIVATION MANUAL AIRBAG DEACTIVATION
COURTESY LAMP FR+RE DOORS CONT - FR+RE INTERIOR LAMP
HEADLAMP HEIGHT ADJUSTER REMOTE MANUAL HEADLAMP ADJUSTMENT
FRONT SUN VISOR DRIVER’S+PASSENGER’S SIDE WITHOUT INSCRIPTION
RADIO RECEIVER "RD2" RDS COMPACT DISC AUDIO SYSTEM
REFRIGERATION AIR CONDITIONING
CRUISE CONTROL WITHOUT SPEED CONTROL
DRIVER’S SEAT HEIGHT CONTROL PARR+FR DRV HEIGHT ADJ
INTERIOR REAR VIEW MIRROR DAY -NIGHT INNER REAR MIRROR
AIR CON./TEMPERATURE REGULATION WITH REGULATION AIRCON/TEMP
STORAGE (OTHERS) ONE STORAGE BOX IN BOOT
CARPET COVER W/O CARPETMAT
DRIVER AIRBAG DRIVERS AIR BAG
EXT. REAR VIEW MIRROR (DRIVER SIDE RADIUS) DOMED DRIVER’S DOOR MIRROR GLASSS
LOAD SPACE STORAGE W/O BOOT TIDY
INTERIOR PROTECTION WITHOUT INNER PROTECTION
SWITCH ELECTRONIC ANTI-THEFT KEY
COOLANT LEVEL WARNING LAMP WATER LEVEL WARNING
ANTIPOLLUTION MALFUNCTION WARNING LAMP WITHOUT ANTIPOLLUTION MALFUNCTION LED
TRIM ADAPTATION STANDARD GEAR LEVER KNOB
EQUALISER AMPLIFIER WITHOUT EQUALISER AMPLIFIER
LOCKING CONTROL CENTRAL DEAD LOCKING
REAR QUARTER WINDOW (TYPE) WITHOUT REAR QUARTER GLASS
WINDOW (TYPE) NON ATHERMAL WINDSCREEN
STEERING WHEEL RUBBER STEERING WHEEL,4 BRANCH
FAN 1 FAN 350W

Electrical
ALTERNATOR ALTERNATOR 150 AMP
HORNS HORNS-HARMONY
BATTERY BATTERY L2 400
REMOTE CONTROL REMOTE CONTROL ASSEMBLY
STARTER MOTOR STARTER MOTOR CL 5
SPECIAL LIGHTING WITHOUT PARTICULAR LIGHT
INTERFERENCE SUPPRESSION RADIO INTERFERENCE SUPPRESSOR
MISC. INT. LAMPS MAP READING LAMP
SILL ILLUMINATION LAMP WITHOUT SILL ILLUMINATION
EXT. REARVIEW MIRROR COMP. FUNCTION EXT DOOR MIRROR WITHOUT ADDITIONAL FUNCTION
MULTIPLEXING WITHOUT MULTIPLEXING
COURTESY LAMP FR+RE DOORS CONT - FR+RE INTERIOR LAMP
FRONT FOGLAMP FRONT FOG LIGHTS
HEADLAMP HEIGHT ADJUSTER REMOTE MANUAL HEADLAMP ADJUSTMENT
Component manufacturers
INJECTION ASSOCIATED VARIANT W/O INJECTION VARIANT

Miscellaneous
SPECIAL SPECIFICATION DEPOLLUTION
ATMOSPHERIC CONDITIONS NORMAL ATMOSPHERE
FIRST AID KIT WITHOUT FIRST AID BOX
DRIVING POSITION RIGHT HAND DRIVE
TRAFFIC SIDE DRIVING ON THE LEFT-HAND SIDE
SIDE IMPACTS DOOR WITHOUT REINFORCEMENT
SET OF KEYS 1 HF PLIP KEY + 1 SINGLE MAIN KEY
EMERGENCY EQUIPMENT W/O HELP EQUIPMENT
SURFACE CONDITIONS GOOD TERRAIN
EXTERIOR ACCESSORIES BODY COLOUR DOOR MIRRORS + HANDLES
SPEED MONITORING WITHOUT SPEED CHECK
EMERGENCY WARNING TRIANGLE WITHOUT WARNING TRIANGLE

[Welly]

Another one that left the factory with no engine undertray

And with no 'Embellishment' of the tail pipe

Good work trem, I've got a feeling Oliver's going to love that list

[STALLED]

My personal favourite:

EMERGENCY WARNING TRIANGLE WITHOUT WARNING TRIANGLE....

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I thought I had acknowledged trem1's comprehensive identity document for my car, but the message in question seems to have dropped through a hole in the floor (very much as the handbrake lever used to do on my old Rover P4s). Belated but hearty thanks to him, then, as well as to all who have posted. I have transcribed the Service Box information onto my computer and it will shortly be added to the folder of documents that came with the car.

I am rather glad that I did not know about the PYROTECHNIC SEAT BELT before buying the car. A word meaning 'fireworks' seems a little out of place in reference to a safety device.

Apologies all round if this message proves after all to be a duplicate.

Oliver Mundy.