I've had a sneaky trip to GB

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But I didn't say anything because I wasn't actually sure it was going to happen, what with dodgy companies with their dodgy vans, offices that don't exist... I wasn't certain I was going right until I actually had a van on the drive here.

Here it is:
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It's an Iveco Daily something-or-the-other which came from Iveco-Benussi in Lučko here, it's 12 cubic meters, which is slightly bigger than I wanted but beggars can't be choosers and all that. Still, we managed to pretty much fill it. It cost about 450 quid to hire for 8 days and went back Friday morning with a list of faults:

l/h headlamp pointing at the moon
r/h headlamp pointing at the ground 2 meters in front of the van
rear r/h tyre slow puncture
steering pulls to the left
clunking from steering gear
creaking from front suspension
driver's seat designed by the Spanish Inquisition

Honestly, the driver's seat was so uncomfortable that after an hour my back and arse were on fire. My mate Max, who came with to share the driving, faired better as the twisted driving position just gave him cramp in his leg, so he ended up doing most of the driving. If I could have stood up and drove I would.

Max at the wheel:
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I bought a Garmin sat nav before the trip as I figured it would take all the guess work out of it, plus t'wife had been nagging me for years to get one after we borrowed my bro's Tom Tom. I'd have preferred to get a Tom Tom as I knew it worked but they don't sell them here and it would've made things interesting if I had to send it back or anything.

With only 8 days we had quite a tight schedule, we picked it up the Thursday and loaded it with some stuff for my mate I came to Croatia with and set off early Friday. Friday night we spent in a motel in Germany after spending 3 hours stuck in a traffic jam outside Munich. Saturday we were straight onto the ferry at Dunkirk, over to Dover, and then I set the sat nav for my mate's house in Chiswick. Now I must confess that South and West London are a bit of a mystery to me, so I fugured that when the sat nav sent me up the M20, across the M25 and straight into SOuth London, it must know what it was doing. Umm, this is SE London, we're going to W4? Dear god, straight across London we went, with the sat nav bleeping every 5 inches to tell us about yet another bloody camera. I guess the sat nav decided that that was the quickest route but, really :evil: Maybe on a motorcycle...

I got to my bro's at about 10pm on the Saturday and we spent the Sunday and Monday loading it:

Me bro:
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Me dad:
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(Almost) fully loaded:
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We left early on the Tuesday, back on the ferry -

A fellow passenger:
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stayed the night in the same motel in Germany and things were going steadily until we got to the Alps, whereupon the sat nav threw another wobbly and decided to send us not thought the Alps but over them :shock: :evil: What didn't help was were were running low on fuel and all the gas stations in these tiny little villages we were passing through only took cash, which I'd run out of. Eventually we managed to fill up at a service station here using the card, find a motorway and pretty much ignored the sat nav for the rest of the journey.

Home!!
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I've been trying to figure out what the fuel consumption was on the van but I think I must have lost a couple of receipts as no way was it 9l/100km, we figured on the way up empty it was about 10 and more like 15 on the way back full, especially up and down the Alps.

Before we left we were looking at this - http://www.fuel-prices-europe.info/index.php?sort=3 which didn't really help as European vultur.. sorry, gas stations seem to up the prices on motorways by 20 cents or so, which makes it pretty meaningless. We did take a small detour to Luxembourg both ways though. Filling it up where it was cheap, adding 20 litres or so where it was expensive just to get to the next country.

Well, it was an experience but I hope I never have to do it again!
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Thought things had been a bit quiet in the Balkans recently.
That was a bit of a mission. :shock: Just as well you didn't try it with one driver.
None of these things seem too bad to drive, until you have some serious distance to cover. After my jaunt to & from Hemel in a 7.5 tonner recently I can imagine what it was like. Car satnavs are not the best for trucks, as I discovered. :roll: Guess that van's about halfway between that and a car.

I suppose you're not going to lose too much sleep worrying whether the Garmin's route through central London included the congestion rip-off or low emissions highway robbery zones?
My (limited) experience of European M-way fuel prices agrees with yours - avoid at all costs!

Good to know you made it here & back safe and sound. 8)
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Any more photo's of the crotch rocket?... preferably before you scratched the feck out of it with all the baggage. :lol: :lol:
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Great write up, loving the Matchless, tell us more about it 8)
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I'd love a road trip like that! Not necessarily in an Iveco Daily mind. I had one to drive back and fore Reading and Trowbridge and it was a horrible bit of kit! Then one morning driving past Bristol is started smoking like mad, went into limp mode and wouldn't do more than 47mph. Europecar made me drive it 40miles back to Bristol.

Transits aren't too bad for long distance driving. I had a LWB 200 T350 for 3 weeks and that was an awesome bit of kit! 3.2 litre 5 cylinder Volvo engine! Made a lovely warble flat out. 8)
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Excellent!

I bet you're knackered though :shock:

And glad to be home :)

I don't know how anyone would survive driving one of those shitters for a living :shock: if the Iveco's are anything like the LDV vans then they are dirt-cheap and everything's just about good enough to make the thing work. For a bit.
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I worked for a chap a few years back who drove a sprinter, i never thought much of the sprinter to be honest, it had too much rust for a 2006 van, and felt a bit too agricultural, but one night he crashed the van and burst the sump, while it was getting repaired a mechanic gave him the iveco van that preceded the one in the pictures, it was a complete and utter turd of a van, there was faults everywhere with it and although we only had to do 50 miles in it the blow out in the exhaust, coupled to the suspension which didnt seem to work, and uncomfortable seats made it a rather unpleasant journey.
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spent the last 25 years or so driving vans around,that model iveco was worse than the model before,why they thought moving the gearstick onto the dash was a good idea is beyond me. No idea on the Lhd model but Rhd drive the upper n/s mirror is virtually totally obscured by the a pillar. The new sprinters are quite good,not as good as the older ones but still miles ahead of the Transit (which has gone all girly and soft). Modern vans arent that bad really com-pred to what i started driving--------------4 speed transit with a perkins diesel that slowed to 25mph climbing up passed saddleworth moor on the m62. Oh Steve what did you think of the bouncy seat in the Iveco ??


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Oops, sorry chaps I've been a bit busy finding places to stash everything :oops:

God yes, that stupid bouncy seat, what on earth is the point of that? I think it's meant to be preloaded with the big knob on the side (as opposed to the one sitting on it...) but whatever I did it just bounced up and down crazily with every bump. I didn't notice any problems with the mirrors, in fact the convex lowers were quite useful pulling out of parking spaces etc. I used to drive vans working for BT (commer 15cwts, Sherpas, Transits), we were lucky to get a heater, let alone air con (never tried it), lecky windows, I presume ABS, and a stereo (which Max forbade me from turning on). Shame about the rest of it really.
Welly wrote:I bet you're knackered though :shock:
I'm still knackered 4 days on. at least my back's stopped aching :frown:
And glad to be home :)
God yes, I knew it had to end but the motorways just seemed to go on forever.
I don't know how anyone would survive driving one of those shitters for a living :shock: if the Iveco's are anything like the LDV vans then they are dirt-cheap and everything's just about good enough to make the thing work. For a bit.
First thing I'd do is rip out the driver's seat and fit one from a 406 :twisted:
D4B wrote:Great write up, loving the Matchless, tell us more about it 8)
Pfft, complete with all the spelling mistakes and missing words... Tbh that was the second time I wrote it, I'd almost finished it when I took a break to look at 607 lecky seat wiring diagrams, Sedra threw a worbbly and crashed Firefox, loosing me the lot :(

The Matchless is this one
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That's me nephew, he's 16 now :shock: The Matchless is a 1953 G3LS which I rebuilt 20-odd years back when I mashed up my leg. It's original owner was a colleague of my dad's and he can still remember him turning up on it new. I think when he was too old to ride it it was just sitting in his shed for a few years (last MOT and tax disk are 1975) and then sold it to my pa as non-runner. I actually have a vid of my dad starting it up for the first time (still covered in cobwebs) in 1992. I'm not really sure how I've ended up with it but I guess it's not worth a hell of a lot and my dad wouldn't be able to ride it any more anyway. It came with all the handbooks, parts lists etc. tool kit (Whitworth!). a luggage rack, tyre inflater, an original cover and a screen that looks bloody awful.

I think it survived the journey ok, it had cardboard and foam packed round it. It's not be started in 10 years though and seems to be leaking oil from the primary chain case (common fault apparently) but I really want to get it going, import it and actually get it on the road again. Well, that's the plan.
scotty73 wrote:Any more photo's of the crotch rocket?

Do what? Ho ho ho, it probably has as much power as your average lawnmower :lol:
Doggy wrote: I suppose you're not going to lose too much sleep worrying whether the Garmin's route through central London included the congestion rip-off or low emissions highway robbery zones?
I have no idea, that all happened after I left GB so it's a mystery to me. I saw lots of signs about emissions but nothing about any fangled congestion charges. Or was I meant to know?
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Vid of the Matchless start up etc 1992-3

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This was all filmed on an ancient video camera, it was just a few bits that managed to get put on a proper video before the camera crapped out. I seem to recall there was much more but most of it was concerned with wire routing and where parts went. I also edited out (most) shots of various pets and our neighbours in their garden felling trees...
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They're great vids mate, thanks for sharing, look at the size of the workshop :shock:

The engine didn't produce any smoke to speak of, which is good.

In Vid 1c @ 1:34 is that a young steve and his brother? :supafrisk: one has long hair and the other has his hands permanently glued in his pockets :lol:
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Cheers, I almost didn't think they were worth uploading :shock:

Yep, that's me when I had (lots of) hair... :supafrisk:
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It's nice to see old pics of what was newish shite back then; I can see a Renner 12TL? and BX and a Granny which looks kinda sporty?
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Seems funny you saying old pics of newish shite as it doesn't actually seem that long ago (although a hell of a lot has changed since then, not just my hair line). Umm, I think I saw the Granny at some point but I've not been paying much attention to the background. Without watching it again they should be a 1979 Renault 16 TX, 1988 Citroen BX 16 Valve, 1992 (I think, it was almost new anyway) Granny 2.0 Scorpio (my former worst car ever...) and my old learner bike's in a few shots, which was a Honda CB125RS (no chance of remembering what year that was). Also, the wire-haired poodle was Babe (aka Ploppy), the cross collie was Dib and the cat behind the coffee table was Whinnie.
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It seems like in the late 80's and early 90's is was a lot easier to afford a fairly newish car (something around 5 year old) many of my vehicular calamities cost no more than £3k but were fairly decent on the face of things (apart from being rusting death traps).

Fast-forward to 2014 and I'm knocking about in a soon-to-be 10 year old car and her indoors' is 12 with no hope of replacing either of them. What happened to our finances? what happened to car prices?

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