405 Mi16 or 205 Gti 1.9 ????

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405 Mi16 or 205 Gti 1.9 ????

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i been wanting to get rid of my 2.1TD for a while now cos i fancy something a bit sportier . im begining to hope the insurance company do write my car off after my girlfriends neighbour reversed into it . if it does get written off ill be sad to see it go cos its been a very good car and i been very happy with it .
i decided to get either a 405 Mi16 or a 205 Gti 1.9 but i cant make my mind up :? . i have owned both cars and was more than happy with both but they both have their good and bad points. i think the Mi16 is my all time favourite car but the 205 is of similair performance and it would be cheaper to fix WHEN it does go wrong cos the 1.9 8v is a common engine where as the Mi16 is getting very rare.
turbolag , wot kind of mpg are you getting out of your Mi ? cos when i had one i would struggle to get 25mpg out of it but then it was chipped and over-fuelling :shock:
id love to have the best of both and get another 205 Mi16 but i aint seen one for my budget of around about £1000 :cry:

Which would you choose cos at the moment im swaying towards the Mi16 :cheesy:
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Both are probably hard to come across at a decent state for a decent price these days I bet. I reckon myself the 405, for carrying space and comfort, but as you say if parts are going to be a problem maybe go for a 205.
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LOL!

I can't believe you guys are having a whinge about the Mi16 being so rare now. Serves you allright for cutting them all up and sticking them into 205's!

I've driven both of em :)

I'd go for the Mi16, probably one of the best cars I have driven, the steering was spot on in my book. Also they are alot more solid than the 205, which feels as though it is constructed with tissue paper and sticky tape! The Mi16 also looks way cool, has this 80's kitsch to it, especially in grey, white or red. Allmost bought one myself with 133,000km on the clock when I was looking for my 406 - had been garaged for the past 10 years as the owner had health problems and couldnt drive! Looked like new and I kick myself for not getting it!!!! Very good mate of mine from school has a Sorrento Green one forsale - been worked with a fresh rebuild, you wanna buy it....? Shame its on the other side of the world :cheesy:

205 is cool, 405 is cooler!

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The MI16 is a rare beasty indeed and so is the 205. You will be lucky to find a good'n these days.

I always loved the 309 GTi Goodwood 8)

When I bought my 309GRi there was a GTi in Red next to it, a J reg but it was £2000.00 more at the time. I always regretted not stretching to the GTi as I would have kept it for years I reckon.
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Can't believe that the Mi16 has become so rare over there in the UK - there are quite a few left here?
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STALLED wrote:Can't believe that the Mi16 has become so rare over there in the UK - there are quite a few left here?
Last time the Mi16 register did a count, about 2 years ago, there were less than 900 left in blighty, so reckon on easily sub 800 now, so there are less left than Lotus Cortinas.

I got a sweet one, and once it's been repainted (booked in August 24th) it'll be a minter. 405 Mi16 handles and brakes in a different league to virtually any other car this side of a Ferrari, and has absolutely phenomenal levels of grip - you'd have to be cack handed indeed to stuff one in a hedge. Very popular as a cheap trackday car becuase of this, which in turn contributes further to their rarity. The 205 GiT is slightly quicker off the mark, with a similar top end, but on the road the Mi aces it as the engine just revs...an revs...and revs...up to 133mph and 7500 RPM(or 138 ependant on tyre size option).

205 is a better propostion for parts, and there is a helluva lot o aftermarket support outthere, but it's common as much, is tricky on the limit, and is cramped and with a tiny boot compared to the Mi, which, funnily enough, is cheaper to insure.

I'd say try and find a half decent Mi and preserve it for future generations, but don't be ashamed of a 205 (although the later 115bhp 1600 is a far nicer drive than the lumpen 1.9) - both cars are easily cpable of flushing their contemporary rivals head doen the toilet!

Avoid late phase I's (the 1.9) Mi's as they're strangled by emissions. Otherwise, there isn't much to choose dynamically between the earlier phI's and the 2.0 litre phase II, and the rare Mi16 4x4 is a rare and highly prized treat.

Oh, and I get 33mpg overall at the moment, slightly more on the 97 RON go juice, and mine is running a Superchipped ECU from a ZX 2.0 16v.
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I might add that I seem to remember my 405 handling much better than my 'arm chair on wheels 406' :|
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The strut brace went a long way to sorting my old D9.
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thanks for the replies , my mind is made up now ill get a 405 Mi16 ( if they write my car off first lol ) . its the sensible choice with 3 kids so i need the extra space over a 205 and iv always loved the Mi16 since my father had a G reg cherry red one when i was 12 :D . what one have you got Turbolag ? ill be looking for an F or G plate 1.9 cos i think its a nicer revving engine than the 2.0 l and its got no cat :cheesy:
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I got a cherry PHII on a K. T'was Bonez old motor, and i've sunk more than a few quid and hundreds of hours into bringing it up to scratch (though it was solid and usable right from the start).

I've got full leather on the way, so if you know anyine that wants to buy my leather/alcantara half and half, send 'em my way.

I'm showing mine of the register stand at Pugfest his year, but we're taking the 107 Sport XS to the FCS.
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you got any pics :cheesy: , my missus wants me to get a 107 xs sport onlt cos she likes the stripe going over it :shock: silly women lol :cheesy:
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i dunno how to get piccies up on here. PM me your email addy and i'll mail you the link to my gallery on the PSOOC.
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i agree with Welly, get a 309 GTi goodwood, or a 205 with GTi6 power, they are pretty awesome, decat exhaust system, a pair of wild cams, a well made induction kit, and a remap and your talking 190bhp, with 900kg, thats Wrx performance :shock:
over on 306gti6.com theres a guy running one with a supercharger pushing out 400bhp 8)
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Welton wrote:I might add that I seem to remember my 405 handling much better than my 'arm chair on wheels 406' :|
I'll take an armchair over a bar stool any day ;)

...except today 'cos I'm about to head out for some beer :cheesy:
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I've put pics of the 107 XS and the Mi16 in the garage.
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