grr french electrics, 406 failed its MOT

mbell666 · Post by **mbell666** » Fri Jun 08, 2007 11:36 am

grrr my 406 has failed its MOT on two counts:

- Smoke test, running some injector cleaner through it (fingers crossed!!!! am worried it may not fix it thou)
- Both dipped headlights not working, they were both working last night when i drove home in the dark! They are changing the bulbs but i don't think that will fix it. Had problem with the the left indicator not turning off the other week, so think its probably the stalk. Luckily it the older "cheap" stalk, not the £200 one.

Hopefully bulbs might fix it! and the injector cleaner will work "magic".

Post by **Welly** » Fri Jun 08, 2007 11:39 am

Unusual for a HDi to fail a smoke test

The headlights sound like the switch or wiring connector on the bulbs.

Good luck fella (fingers crossed).

Eric · Post by **Eric** » Fri Jun 08, 2007 11:55 am

French electrics eh

Engines and chassis are amongst the best made but the electrics are worse than Italian cars and that's saying something!

mbell666 · Post by **mbell666** » Fri Jun 08, 2007 1:34 pm

Welton wrote:Unusual for a HDi to fail a smoke test

The headlights sound like the switch or wiring connector on the bulbs.

Good luck fella (fingers crossed).

I think it wasn't far off failing last year on the smoke test. Just hoping the injector cleaner does the trick, otherwise will be expensive things like cat or injectors

. Wouldn't have through there major prob because its being doing around 55mpg, if they was a bad problem wouldn't have though i would be getting that!

I think it is the stalk the other week it decided that it would indicate left unless i was indicating right. That just fixed itself, but has probably come back in different form at the worst time! I can get the stalk from the stealer's here today, but need to know if it really needs one.

I agree French electrics and there timing isn't good! But they are a good drive and take the miles well.

mbell666 · Post by **mbell666** » Fri Jun 08, 2007 1:46 pm

Good news! Car has now passed.

Two bulbs did the trick, i still think its the switch on the stalk thou and being French it just started to work after it had been treated to new bulbs.

They took the car for a drive, warmed the engine up and it passed the emissions with out the injector cleaner! Presumably the didn't wait for it to fully warm up before testing it, to be fair I only live around the corner so it was stone cold and it will take for ever for it to get up to norm temp just sat idling in the cold and wet!

Now just have to pay out for a new DMF

, so far been quoted £880 and £740 from two local places!

Post by **Welly** » Fri Jun 08, 2007 1:54 pm

Well done fella - I knew it wouldn't be much.

DMF eh?

mbell666 · Post by **mbell666** » Fri Jun 08, 2007 2:15 pm

Welton wrote:Well done fella - I knew it wouldn't be much.

I asked them to keep the bulbs (they are +30% brighter ones) i expect if i refit them they will still work. Warming the engine up fully alway helps the emissions! I just panic when it comes to things like this! Glass is always half empty. :s

Welton wrote:DMF eh?

Yup think so. Engine sounds/shakes like it is missing on a cylinder at idle some time. Vibration through the pedals, groaning nosies.....

Think i need to get a quote for the non DMF flywheel, not sure if i should have the standard flywheel or not. Think one has (probably) done 140K before it needed changing.

Post by **Welly** » Fri Jun 08, 2007 2:35 pm

I think before too long there will be many conversion kits out there at reasonable prices. As more and more older HDi's like ours suffer with lift pumps, pulleys and DMF's then this stuff will become more available.

It's just down to us to road test is all

xplosiv · Post by **xplosiv** » Fri Jun 08, 2007 3:01 pm

Hi,

There the DMF is £246.75 Including VAT at 17.5% from

http://www.parts4peugeot.com/acatalog/O ... s_180.html

then just pay some local garage to do it, should be a small job. you may as well get the clutch kit while you are at it : -

£95.00 £111.63 Including VAT at 17.5%

then it is all done

ANdy

mbell666 · Post by **mbell666** » Fri Jun 08, 2007 4:17 pm

The quote (£740) prices isn't too bad, ~£220 for flywheel, £120 for clutch, £12 for oil seal. I can get the parts for a little less, but if i supply the parts i probably won't get a warranty!

The problem is you have to remove the gearbox so it is a big job, especially as you have to remove lots of stuff before the gearbox will come out! Garage quoted me for 8 hours, £270 which isn't bad for a garage!

xplosiv · Post by **xplosiv** » Fri Jun 08, 2007 5:06 pm

hi,

how many miles has it done?
andy

rapport25 · Post by **rapport25** » Sat Jun 09, 2007 3:50 am

Hi i myself have had a new flywheel fitted to my hdi. Forget the dmf mine had one but is back to a solid uprated flywheel from techniclutch I got an uprated clutch stage 1 organic also paid £130 ish for the clutch and £260ish for the fly i think. So for around £400 on parts threy are better quality than standard also uprated with a 40,000 miles or 4 year guarantee. Plus i paid i think it was £250 labour. Clutch is still nice and light but with added grip. Also my 110 hdi superchipped now it kicks out 150bhp

mbell666 · Post by **mbell666** » Sat Jun 09, 2007 3:57 pm

its done 146K now, fly wheel has been slowly going for probably last 15K at least.

I have thought about getting mine remapped after new flywheel & clutch, probably only take it to the 130's thou. Don't think i will get uprated clutch but i am considering a solid flywheel. Think i might ask the garage for quote to fit a solid flywheel. I am i right in think Luk do one???

rapport25 · Post by **rapport25** » Sat Jun 09, 2007 4:26 pm

My personal opinion is stay clear of tunning boxes and spend you money wisely. I had mine superchipped ok its not a cheap option but you have the back up of research and development. Plus its preset to a safe level of boost. Hence £511. Its takes around 20 to 25 mins to do. And you get a years guarantee or upto £10,000 if you car breaks due to the chip. Look on the superchips website for more info you get 30% more power and torque. As for uprated clutches i would recommened both flywheel and clutch mine are both luk that techniclutch uprate and modify slightly they offer upto 30% stronger over a standard fly and clutch. plus not a lot more on top of a standard fly and clutch in price. Clutch is very light just bite point is slightly different.

rapport25 · Post by **rapport25** » Sat Jun 09, 2007 4:30 pm

The reason you get 150 bhp is that on the 110 hdi you have an over boost which works in 2nd to 5 th gear put your foot to the floor and you get an extra 10% power there is a 5th injector so i am told.